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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Unknown - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 06:41 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote:(02-19-2011, 06:39 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: Bro is common vernacular, i would not attach much significance to it. (assuming you believe Tiffany's acct.) I agree with you also and I have pointed out that tiffany says 2 different things, sometimes she says he kept sayn bro, what are you doin or bro, who are you and that are to way different question yet she seems not to be able to keep what one was said because it was a lie and people get confused when telling the same lie to so many people. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - concerned - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 06:29 PM)Countryside_Belle Wrote:(02-19-2011, 05:46 PM)concerned Wrote:(02-19-2011, 05:40 PM)Jane Wrote:(02-19-2011, 05:35 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote:(02-19-2011, 05:21 PM)Jane Wrote: Still don't know if I think they knew the perps. I don't doubt Johnny or Lisa told someone her parents were out of town, but it could have been that someone told someone else, & so forthThese are on the board: point taken RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Duchess - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 06:41 PM)Jane Wrote: that's how I see it, but I tend to believe Tiffany's story about the phone call I waffle just a bit but I'm prepared to give all the names I've read the benefit of doubt...for now. I KNOW that life can be stranger than fiction & I also know that life can go from sugar to shit in literally a heartbeat. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - onefortheroad - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 06:40 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote: I agree 110%! Tiff, I'll call you back is totally made up, she never once says that on the 911 call and twice she explained that phone call to the operator, not a word of Tiff, I'll call you back. Who wouldn't say that?? I was talking with him, he was arguing with some and he said I'll call you back, TWICE she explained what she heard, yellin and arguing but not once does she say he said 'Tiff, I'll call you back. Used her name too!! l'm definitely seeing a duck RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - ToledoNative - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 06:40 PM)Unknown Wrote:(02-19-2011, 06:38 PM)ToledoNative Wrote:(02-19-2011, 06:34 PM)Unknown Wrote:(02-19-2011, 06:30 PM)Jane Wrote:(02-19-2011, 06:21 PM)Unknown Wrote: Johnny had every reason to be prepared and panicking, he knows he has screwed over people in the past and one day it'd come back to bite him in the ass. he acted like he could handle it and said let me call you back instead of call the police. This is one of the reason I don't think that convo of what Tiffany says never happened. Well I have my own opinion of that. I think Tiffany knows what happened and who did it. I also think she was helping by being on the phone with Johnny. I haven't decided if she was helping the intruders by keeping him on the phone so they could go in after Johnny and Lisa left and the timing got messed up and he met them at the door, or if she was on the phone with Johnny so she could let the intruders know when he was walking out the door so they could walk in to an open door. If this was not just about finding a safe or money and was more about revenge, then Tiffany would've made sure the intruders were catching Johnny and Lisa right before they walked out the door. Find the motive and you will be able to unravel the circumstances. Motive is always key. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Countryside_Belle - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 06:17 PM)ToledoNative Wrote:(02-19-2011, 06:13 PM)concerned Wrote:(02-19-2011, 06:07 PM)ToledoNative Wrote: I have seen the pics of Johnny in his casket. His face is not mutilated. Yes, but what about the tongue being cut out? If this happened to either one of them, you probably couldn't tell since the lips are closed/sewn shut. (?) His face in the casket pic didn't look too abnormal to me...as far as swelling, etc. True the morticians do a very good job in some cases though. On a side note, if God forbid I was shot or beat in the head/face, I'd like a closed casket. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Countryside_Belle - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 06:09 PM)Jane Wrote:(02-19-2011, 06:03 PM)Unknown Wrote:(02-19-2011, 05:58 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote:(02-19-2011, 05:49 PM)Jane Wrote:(02-19-2011, 05:46 PM)concerned Wrote: IMO the word "bro" when talking to someone is used amongst friends not someone being met with an intruder I agree, I don't think there were masks at this point. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Countryside_Belle - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 06:23 PM)Duchess Wrote: Agree RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Inspector Gary - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 06:17 PM)ToledoNative Wrote:(02-19-2011, 06:13 PM)concerned Wrote:(02-19-2011, 06:07 PM)ToledoNative Wrote: I have seen the pics of Johnny in his casket. His face is not mutilated. I'm looking at the picture of JC in the casket, and there is no visible swelling or marks. Has anyone seen pics of Lisa in the casket? RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - ToledoNative - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 06:54 PM)Countryside_Belle Wrote:(02-19-2011, 06:23 PM)Duchess Wrote: If that's true and she could hear that he felt he could handle it, then Tiffany wouldn't have gone over to the house concered. She would've just let Johnny "handle it". People like that don't want to get involved in other people's business if it doesn't concern them. That's just asking for new enemies. She went over to the house (and I believe she did) to cause more time to lapse, waste time. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Countryside_Belle - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 06:36 PM)Unknown Wrote: Dont forget them steak knives that were taken as evidence. why were steak knives taken if JC&JS weren't cut. Humm. IMO He Stabbed one of those fuckers. Hhmm...good point Unknown. I wonder if the local hospitals have been checked for these types of injuries..? If johnny got some licks in, I bet he made them count! He was a big boy.... RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - onefortheroad - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 06:41 PM)Jane Wrote:(02-19-2011, 06:23 PM)Duchess Wrote: And which version of Tiffany's phone call story do you believe then? RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - concerned - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 06:57 PM)ToledoNative Wrote:(02-19-2011, 06:54 PM)Countryside_Belle Wrote:(02-19-2011, 06:23 PM)Duchess Wrote: I agree Toledonative RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - TotallyCurious - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 06:54 PM)Countryside_Belle Wrote:(02-19-2011, 06:23 PM)Duchess Wrote: With the phone in his hand, if he sensed danger he could have dialed 911 or told Tiffany to call 911 or the police. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 06:57 PM)ToledoNative Wrote:(02-19-2011, 06:54 PM)Countryside_Belle Wrote:(02-19-2011, 06:23 PM)Duchess Wrote: not necessarily. If Tiffany was trying to hook up with Johnny, to get dope, she'd keep trying to get hold of him. jmo RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Lady Cop - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 06:56 PM)Inspector Gary Wrote:(02-19-2011, 06:17 PM)ToledoNative Wrote:(02-19-2011, 06:13 PM)concerned Wrote:(02-19-2011, 06:07 PM)ToledoNative Wrote: I have seen the pics of Johnny in his casket. His face is not mutilated. no, her parents did not post any on the internet. but i understand she did have an open casket. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Countryside_Belle - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 06:56 PM)Inspector Gary Wrote:(02-19-2011, 06:17 PM)ToledoNative Wrote:(02-19-2011, 06:13 PM)concerned Wrote:(02-19-2011, 06:07 PM)ToledoNative Wrote: I have seen the pics of Johnny in his casket. His face is not mutilated. Gary, IF I remember correctly,there may have been a couple people here that posted in the past few days that attended her funeral...I can't remember if they said anything about her appearance in the casket however. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 06:58 PM)onefortheroad Wrote:(02-19-2011, 06:41 PM)Jane Wrote:(02-19-2011, 06:23 PM)Duchess Wrote: the only version she posted here , the other night.. It fits with the 911 call, IMO RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - ToledoNative - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 06:59 PM)concerned Wrote:(02-19-2011, 06:57 PM)ToledoNative Wrote:(02-19-2011, 06:54 PM)Countryside_Belle Wrote:(02-19-2011, 06:23 PM)Duchess Wrote: What I'm saying is look at her story. She also made it sound like there was yelling/fight going on. If you listen to the tapes again, Tiffany was concerned. After the phone hung up, she tried to call Lisa's phone and Johnny's phone and texted them. They wouldn't respond. So she had reason to be concerned. You wouldn't wait for your friend's mom to wake up so you could ask her if you can use her car to drive over and "check things out", you would've immediately called police or at least one of Johnny's tough guy friends. You wouldn't wait for a car and then take your big pregnant self over there alone. C'MON PEOPLE...keep believing Tiffany... RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - EastCoastKat - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 06:44 PM)Jane Wrote:(02-19-2011, 06:40 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote:(02-19-2011, 06:03 PM)Unknown Wrote:(02-19-2011, 05:58 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote:(02-19-2011, 05:49 PM)Jane Wrote: "bro" is like "dude" IMO No, she repeats it twice... TW...I will Hello 911...Whats going on there? TW...ok umm My friend Johnny and Lisa they were suppose to come pick me up. me and my friend. from our house and this was like 11 oclock and ummm he ummm I was on the phone with his gf Lisa and then he hung up, and ummm we all hung up, and he said they were on their way and then he...I called Johnny right back cuz I was gonna tell him that I was gonna run to the store and then I would meet them at the house.. well ummm he was yellin at somebody like ummm I'm on ... he goes..bro who are you.. and then umm..I called him right back and he didn't answer. so I texted my friend Lisa's phone and and I was like umm where are you are, are you guys okay and they have not answered to me nothing they have not answered the phone and I been callin and callin...callin So I drove out to their house after umm my friends mom got home and umm nobody answered the door so I drove back by our house to see if maybe they went to his moms house and umm but he wasn't there and ummm so his dad called my phone and I was like do you want a ride out there and he says yeah and I brought him out here and now his moms arguing with me saying I set them up and you know their my friends and Im worried about them and I don't have and you know Im worried about my friends because they were suppose to come pick me up and I mean they never showed up. 911: okay does any have.. what's the son's name, what's her son's name Johnny is that his name? TW: Yeah, Johnny Clarke 911: Does anybody have his phone number? TW. Yeah I do but his phones shut off 911: okay TW: Umm we was callin and it was ringing but then it shut off all of a sudden and then I was callin my friends phone and I been texting her asking her if she okay are they okay cause they wouldn't answer and then I texted her like last I talked to you ummm I heard him arguing and then now all of sudden they haven't picked up the phone or nothing. 911: Okay, are you are there a couple of officers out there? TW: Yeah, there some officer out here 911: Why don't you go talk to them go talk to them and they can help you. okay TW: I'll put his mother back on the phone 911: Okay, actually I don't need to talk to her, talk to the officiers. TW: Okay, 911: Okay TW: Alright 911: Bye, bye First time SHE HAD A CHANCE TO SAY HE WAS GONNA CALL ME BACK: well ummm he was yellin at somebody like ummm I'm on ... he goes..bro who are you.. and then umm.. HE SAID HE WOULD CALL ME BACK, I called him right back and he didn't answer--NOPE NO CALL ME BACK HERE Second time SHE HAD A CHANCE TO SAY HE WAS GONNA CALL ME BACK: like last I talked to you ummm I heard him arguing HE SAID HE WOULD CALL ME BACK and then now all of sudden they haven't picked up the phone or nothing--NOPE NO CALL ME BACK HERE EITHER Both times in the conversation she is relaying what she heard and what JC said to her, why wouldn't she say he was going to call me back??? BECAUSE IT'S NOT TRUE...THAT'S WHY! |