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RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - Blindgreed1 - 10-08-2015 (10-08-2015, 01:33 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:Technology. Public health experts cite many ways we could live more safely with guns, and many of them have broad popular support.(10-08-2015, 01:28 PM)Blindgreed1 Wrote: The solution is simple. First and foremost address the metal health issue. 2nd, make guns safer. 32,719 Americans died in automobile accidents in 2013. Actually, cars exemplify the public health approach we need to apply to guns. Do we ban cars? No. Do we ban fast cars? No but we do require driver’s licenses, seatbelts, airbags, padded dashboards, safety glass and collapsible steering columns. A poll this year found that majorities even of gun-owners (like F.U.) favor universal background checks; tighter regulation of gun dealers; safe storage requirements in homes; and a 10-year prohibition on possessing guns for anyone convicted of domestic violence, assault or similar offenses. We should also be investing in “smart gun” technology, such as weapons that fire only with a PIN or fingerprint. We should adopt microstamping that allows a bullet casing to be traced back to a particular gun. We can require liability insurance for guns, as we do for cars. All very simple answers to the secondary problem. The first problem is the complicated one HoTD. Address those two issues. RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - HairOfTheDog - 10-08-2015 People should always check their sources, Gunnar. User's source, the BBC, and the data year is imbedded in the "homicide" chart itself. It checks out. If you think that's unreliable and want to try to impeach it with a conflicting more credible source, go ahead. Charts and graphs from credible and validated sources, when doing comparative analysis, are extremely helpful to me. Bullshit, on the other hand, is easy to spot and toss. RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - HairOfTheDog - 10-08-2015 (10-08-2015, 01:37 PM)Blindgreed1 Wrote: Technology. Public health experts cite many ways we could live more safely with guns, and many of them have broad popular support. Thanks for informing me that F.U. is a gun-owner, Gunnar. I'm well aware of F.U.'s changing position(s) on universal background checks; we've exchanged no less than 20 posts on the subject. I understand what the polls reflect. Too bad the NRA and the politicians it owns don't listen to their more rational members and the public as a whole. I don't have a strong opinion or knowledge about the merits of replacing current guns with 'smart guns', aside from it likely reducing gun violence committed with stolen guns. Outside of that, I imagine, putting a 'smart gun' in the hands of a violent, homicidal, or suicidal person won't make anyone safer from violence, homicide, or suicide by those hands. So, I'll stay out of the "technology is the solution" discussion for now. RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - Midwest Spy - 10-08-2015 Cars are a transportation tool. Guns are a killing tool. Man, this shit gets old. RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - HairOfTheDog - 10-08-2015 (10-08-2015, 01:50 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: Cars are a transportation tool. I hear ya. Deja vu, again. RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - Duchess - 10-08-2015 Hehehe RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - Blindgreed1 - 10-08-2015 (10-08-2015, 01:50 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: Cars are a transportation tool.You're telling me this shit gets old. It's public safety we're discussing right or wrong? Why take a different approach because the tools serve different purposses? Do you keep your wrenches in a different tool box from your screw drivers, sockets, pliers etc? Doubtful. Regardless of what the tool is used for public safety is the issue. RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - Duchess - 10-08-2015 MS is as extreme as FU. RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - Midwest Spy - 10-08-2015 (10-08-2015, 01:59 PM)Duchess Wrote: You're trolling me right? RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - username - 10-08-2015 (10-08-2015, 11:04 AM)F.U. Wrote:(10-08-2015, 10:55 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:(10-08-2015, 09:28 AM)F.U. Wrote: My question was are you OK with certain types of firearms being taken away, Your answer is yes, as stated above. The first thing that popped in to my head reading #14 was George Zimmerman. *shudders* RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - F.U. - 10-08-2015 (10-08-2015, 01:49 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: I'm well aware of F.U.'s changing position(s) on universal background checks; we've exchanged no less than 20 posts on the subject. Is it a bad thing that I have reconsidered my stance on BG checks? RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - HairOfTheDog - 10-08-2015 (10-08-2015, 02:19 PM)F.U. Wrote:(10-08-2015, 01:49 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: I'm well aware of F.U.'s changing position(s) on universal background checks; we've exchanged no less than 20 posts on the subject. Not at all. My point was that since you can and do speak for yourself, and I can and do read and consider your comments addressed to me, I'm clear as to where you stood and where you stand now. However, the fact that you're a gun-owner is quite shocking. You really had me going there. RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - Duchess - 10-08-2015 (10-08-2015, 02:13 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: You're trolling me right? No, I'm not, you tend to be somewhat extreme in regards to your religion as well. There is no middle ground for you. I don't hold any of that against you, I think you're completely entitled to your viewpoint and not I or anyone else has to agree with it. I want you to always express yourself in here, matter of fact I count on it. I'm not being snarky so don't think that I am. RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - F.U. - 10-08-2015 (10-08-2015, 02:28 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:(10-08-2015, 02:19 PM)F.U. Wrote:(10-08-2015, 01:49 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: I'm well aware of F.U.'s changing position(s) on universal background checks; we've exchanged no less than 20 posts on the subject. OK, I just wanted to make sure I was clear on that . RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - F.U. - 10-08-2015 (10-08-2015, 02:13 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote:(10-08-2015, 01:59 PM)Duchess Wrote: Its all good MS. Extreme is good. Who wants to be a run of the mill, average sheep? RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - F.U. - 10-08-2015 (10-08-2015, 02:19 PM)username Wrote:(10-08-2015, 11:04 AM)F.U. Wrote:(10-08-2015, 10:55 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:(10-08-2015, 09:28 AM)F.U. Wrote: My question was are you OK with certain types of firearms being taken away, Your answer is yes, as stated above. I never thought of that user. However I am good with that. Gotta keep those hoodie wearing skittle eating thugs in check somehow. RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - HairOfTheDog - 10-08-2015 Be careful about cozying up too much to MS, F.U. Before you know it, the pansy ass will have pried all of your guns from your hands and fed them to the chop saw!!!!!!!!!!! Snark, snark, snark. RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - Duchess - 10-08-2015 (10-08-2015, 02:36 PM)F.U. Wrote: Its all good MS. Extreme is good. Who wants to be a run of the mill, average sheep? Those who don't share your fears are not sheep. RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - Midwest Spy - 10-08-2015 (10-08-2015, 02:36 PM)F.U. Wrote:(10-08-2015, 02:13 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote:(10-08-2015, 01:59 PM)Duchess Wrote: There are evil people in this world who do cowardly things. Do I want to see all responsible gun owners punished for the actions of a tiny percentage? No, however, I don't really know what the alternative is. Remember, the victims of gun violence had rights too. The right to Life, Liberty & the Pursuit of Happiness. They're dead now, and their families have holes in their hearts that will probably never heal. Gun folk say 'it's not the gun'. Yes it is. I don't remember the stat from up thread, but it was a staggering number of shootings in a very recent span of time. You, Six, Maggot are clearly not the problem, but none of you really even acknowledge that there IS a problem. There's no easy solution, other than maybe going back to institutionalizing people the way we did a half century ago. But, that would take the govt getting involved in that business too. Outrage & uproar would follow. 'How dare you lock Jimmy up, he wouldn't hurt a fly.' Then we're right back to where we are now. Very loose rules which allow just about anyone to slip through the cracks, buy a gun & ammo, & kill as many people as they can. RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - F.U. - 10-08-2015 (10-08-2015, 02:48 PM)Duchess Wrote:(10-08-2015, 02:36 PM)F.U. Wrote: Its all good MS. Extreme is good. Who wants to be a run of the mill, average sheep? Any animal will work. I could have used jackasses, but then I thought a sheep is much nicer. |