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RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - HairOfTheDog - 01-07-2016 Yeah, California is more diverse and probably qualifies as weird to many. I haven't had the opportunity to visit New Hampshire, unfortunately. Anyway, I wouldn't mind if you called me a freak; it's subjective. But, I'm not an irresponsible gun-shy freak, that's for sure. So, where are you running across all these gun-shy irresponsible psychos today, Maggot? RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - Blindgreed1 - 01-07-2016 (01-07-2016, 01:08 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: Almost all use of Executive Order/Action draws the ire of the opposition party, people who disagree with what's being enacted, and people who dislike the President. And, there are those who decry all EOs/EAs as unconstitutional regardless of content or party or President. It's been that way for hundreds of years.Very few. This probably won't be overturned as none of it will come to fruition over the coming months. RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - F.U. - 01-07-2016 (01-07-2016, 01:38 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: Anyway, I wouldn't mind if you called me a freak; it's subjective. But, I'm not an irresponsible gun-shy freak, that's for sure. I know this wasn't directed at me but I just wanted to say I don't consider you as either of those HotD. I look at you as more of a peace and love, kumbaya singing, cant we all just get along, kinda girl. Not that that is a bad thing. It is just that you are on the opposite end of the spectrum from me. RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - Maggot - 01-07-2016 (01-07-2016, 01:38 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: Yeah, California is more diverse and probably qualifies as weird to many. I haven't had the opportunity to visit New Hampshire, unfortunately. Mostly on-line. Everyone around here has at least 2-3 guns at home and want to keep it that way. This executive action is mostly pandering to the left. What was once moderates are now either far right or far left today, and the psychopaths are distributing the propaganda. This is the change. Let the good times roll. If I ever get to Cali again we can go target practice out in the desert. RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - Duchess - 01-07-2016 (01-07-2016, 02:22 PM)Maggot Wrote: Everyone around here has at least 2-3 guns at home That's how it is where I grew up. Gun racks in the back windows. Hell, you could go to school and leave your gun in the rack, not me personally but I saw it all the time. Our world will never be like that again. It sounds corny to say it was a simpler more innocent time but it was. RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - F.U. - 01-07-2016 I still have a gun rack in the back window of my truck. RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - Duchess - 01-07-2016 Of course you do, Mr. NRA. RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - Maggot - 01-07-2016 Where else would you put a gun during hunting season? Its not illegal. RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - F.U. - 01-07-2016 A shotgun, a rifle and a console full of ammo too. I don't take that truck to town much though. I get some strange looks. RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - Maggot - 01-07-2016 Times have changed and minds have become warped. Oh, well. RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - Blindgreed1 - 01-07-2016 (01-07-2016, 02:19 PM)F.U. Wrote:Rainbows and unicorns bro. Rainbows and unicorns.(01-07-2016, 01:38 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: Anyway, I wouldn't mind if you called me a freak; it's subjective. But, I'm not an irresponsible gun-shy freak, that's for sure. RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - HairOfTheDog - 01-07-2016 (01-07-2016, 02:19 PM)F.U. Wrote:(01-07-2016, 01:38 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: Anyway, I wouldn't mind if you called me a freak; it's subjective. But, I'm not an irresponsible gun-shy freak, that's for sure. Well, that's an unfitting characterization of me F.U., but it's your impression and not a bad one. Anyway, you know from hundreds of posts and exchanges that I support measures to keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people and children; measures to increase public safety without taking away rights to bear arms. You also know that I don't advocate bans, a registry, or quantity limits for gun owners and that I respect the Second Amendment (though we interpret parts of it differently). If that's "the opposite end of the spectrum" in your mind, you don't have a spectrum, F.U. It's instead just two extremes for you with people who share some, but not all, of your views seen as "opposite" in your mind. You've admitted previously to your 'me/us vs. them' extremist mentality, so it's not surprising or problematic that you view me and others who don't agree with all of your positions that way. And, it's probably not surprising to you that I don't view you at the opposite end of the spectrum. That would be a false view. You're on one extreme and I'm somewhere in the middle ground. RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - F.U. - 01-07-2016 Now why do you always have to post those long drawn out responses? I wasn't talking just about this gun issue. I was generalizing. You seam to be more of a glass is 1⁄2 full person and I am a glass is 1⁄2 empty most of the time. Yes we do have some common ground. RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - HairOfTheDog - 01-07-2016 (01-07-2016, 02:53 PM)F.U. Wrote: Now why do you always have to post those long drawn out responses? I wasn't talking just about this gun issue. I was generalizing. You seam to be more of a glass is 1⁄2 full person and I am a glass is 1⁄2 empty most of the time. Yes we do have some common ground. You don't have to read my long drawn out posts or respond to them, F.U. I'll still say what I mean, my way. And, I'll still read yours. Anyway, your 1⁄2 full vs. 1⁄2 empty analogy doesn't fit "opposite ends of the spectrum." But, I get what you mean. RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - username - 01-07-2016 The slippery slope argument is the same put forth by some rabid pro-choice folks. As soon as limitations are put on late term abortions, the government is going to somehow magically put an end to ALL abortions (regardless of whether or not it completely defies the wishes of a majority of Americans. I support putting limitations on abortion and I'd like to get rid of the big, bad semi auto, high capacity guns but I don't give one fuck about the balance of the guns you own (the general/sane "you"). RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - Maggot - 01-07-2016 I was getting into my truck today and the ice on top of the snow was a slippery slope. I almost spilled my coffee. RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - Maggot - 01-07-2016 I just read that my state has the lowest murder rate in the country and is one of the most lenient with guns 10th. RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - Blindgreed1 - 01-07-2016 (01-07-2016, 03:03 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:In certain circles, being on the spectrum is enough.(01-07-2016, 02:53 PM)F.U. Wrote: Now why do you always have to post those long drawn out responses? I wasn't talking just about this gun issue. I was generalizing. You seam to be more of a glass is 1⁄2 full person and I am a glass is 1⁄2 empty most of the time. Yes we do have some common ground. RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - HairOfTheDog - 01-07-2016 (01-07-2016, 02:22 PM)Maggot Wrote: If I ever get to Cali again we can go target practice out in the desert. You're very honest about the fact that being within the 'norm' for your area is of great value to you, and people and things outside of it get under your skin. So, I don't expect you to make it to California again Maggot; I'd be afraid you'd have a heart attack being so far outside your comfort zone these days. If for some reason you found yourself here again and survived the initial culture shock, however, there are places to shoot. I'm not a great aim, but target practice is fun (as long as I'm not the target ). Biggie's neck of the woods is a very cool area and would probably be more comfortable and palatable for you than mine though -- a lot more open land, less diverse population, and generally much more conservative, I think (correct me if I'm wrong about that, Biggie). RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - HairOfTheDog - 01-07-2016 (01-07-2016, 05:42 PM)Blindgreed1 Wrote:(01-07-2016, 03:03 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: Anyway, your 1⁄2 full vs. 1⁄2 empty analogy doesn't fit "opposite ends of the spectrum." But, I get what you mean.In certain circles, being on the spectrum is enough. There is no spectrum in the 1⁄2 full vs. 1⁄2 empty scenario, in any circle. It's an either/or perception of a fixed value, Gunnar. As I already confirmed, I understood what F.U. meant. He considers himself a 1⁄2 empty kinda person and considers me a 1⁄2 full kinda person; good enough. And, there's more than enough room on the spectrum of gun control positions for F.U., me, and everybody else in this circle. |