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RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - username - 01-22-2016

(01-21-2016, 01:11 AM)SIXFOOTERsez Wrote: So, when they confiscate everyone's AP ammo, all the hi cap mags and the killing doesn't stop?
What will they come for then?

The knife block on your kitchen counter? C'mon. Nobody in their right mind thinks that all killing will stop and I believe it's a very tiny percentage of people that think ALL guns should be confiscated/banned. I would never advocate for that.

RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - BigMark - 01-22-2016

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RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - Duchess - 01-22-2016



Is that a gas mask? A Louis Vuitton gas mask? Hahaha! I'd sorta like to run around in the snow wearing that this weekend. hah

RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - F.U. - 01-22-2016

Damn, I bet that's much more expensive than the Military issue gas masks I own.

RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - HairOfTheDog - 01-22-2016

Texas

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^ 4-year-old Bryson Hernandez managed to find his grandfather's gun inside the house in Cypress, a suburb of Houston, on Tuesday night and shot himself in the head.

The incident occurred around midnight and the little boy who family members say loved his sisters and Iron Man most in this world was rushed to the hospital in a critical condition where he later died. RIP.

Investigators are trying to determine how Bryson found the loaded gun. No charges have been filed. Authorities say the death will be referred to a grand jury.

http://www.click2houston.com/news/4-year-old-shot-in-head-in-northwest-harris-county
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Bryson's family says that families should lock up their guns, tell their little ones not to touch guns, etc..

Mandatory gun safes, gun locks, prosecution of irresponsible gun owners...we've discussed those measures to minimize toddler gun deaths.

In the future, smart gun technology will really help in achieving that goal, in my opinion, if and when it hits the market. I hope that the government is able to successfully work with gun manufacturers to at least get child safety features implemented soon.

"If a child can't open a bottle of aspirin, we should make sure they can't pull a trigger on a gun." That was one of the statements that President Obama made at the Town Hall Meeting and when announcing the smart gun technology initiative.

Why shouldn't child safety features be standard on firearms? What would be objectionable about that measure which would in no way infringe on anybody's rights to bear (safer) arms?

RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - Cutz - 01-22-2016

Around 100,000 children end up in the E.R. each year after ingesting medication belonging to grandparents, and such cases of exposure to medicine through grandparents account for as many as 10-20% of all accidental medication poisonings.

http://www.keepyourchildsafe.org/child-safety-book/child-poisoning-facts-and-statistics.html

RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - F.U. - 01-22-2016

While I am not a big fan of Taurus firearms , I do like their internal locking system they use. I think this system, if used by all gun manufacturers would go a long way to curbing this issue of children shooting themselves and others. Well, that is as long as the owners would actually use the system.

Here is a link to explain what they do. http://www.taurususa.com/pdf/security.pdf

RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - Duchess - 01-22-2016



It's a slippery slope. 78

RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - F.U. - 01-22-2016

(01-22-2016, 02:45 PM)Duchess Wrote:

It's a slippery slope. 78

This is something that the manufacturer willingly came up with. It is not something mandated by Gov.

Eye roll this smartass.

RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - Duchess - 01-22-2016

(01-22-2016, 02:48 PM)F.U. Wrote: Eye roll this smartass.


I probably would. 39

RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - sally - 01-22-2016

(01-22-2016, 02:45 PM)Duchess Wrote:

It's a slippery slope. 78

I thought the same thing, but you beat me to posting it hah

RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - HairOfTheDog - 01-22-2016

(01-22-2016, 02:44 PM)Cutz Wrote: Around 100,000 children end up in the E.R. each year after ingesting medication belonging to grandparents, and such cases of exposure to medicine through grandparents account for as many as 10-20% of all accidental medication poisonings.

http://www.keepyourchildsafe.org/child-safety-book/child-poisoning-facts-and-statistics.html

I understand that Cutz. Would the number be even higher if nobody used child proof caps (properly)? I can't say for a fact, but I imagine so.

I also can't say for a fact what a child proof safety feature would entail; there are likely several different options on the table. The fingerprint recognition option is one that I've heard about; one which could be virtually tamper proof.

What's your point? Do you object to investment in research of child safety features for guns?

RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - F.U. - 01-22-2016

(01-22-2016, 02:49 PM)Duchess Wrote:
(01-22-2016, 02:48 PM)F.U. Wrote: Eye roll this smartass.


I probably would. 39

You probably would. I couldn't keep up with the horses you usually ride.

RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - F.U. - 01-22-2016

(01-22-2016, 02:52 PM)sally Wrote:
(01-22-2016, 02:45 PM)Duchess Wrote:

It's a slippery slope. 78

I thought the same thing, but you beat me to posting it hah

See there's the thing. You hens don't understand the difference between doing something because you want to and doing something because they make you. Once they start making you do shit it becomes a case of do more and more.

Ask me to do something and I might just do it. Tell me to do it and fuck you.

RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - Duchess - 01-22-2016

(01-22-2016, 02:52 PM)F.U. Wrote: You probably would. I couldn't keep up with the horses you usually ride.


Someone recently tried to shame me for not wearing a helmet. I made my horse prance sideways and watched her skiddle away like a mouse when I really wanted to say bite my fat ass, fuckface.

RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - F.U. - 01-22-2016

(01-22-2016, 02:52 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:
(01-22-2016, 02:44 PM)Cutz Wrote: Around 100,000 children end up in the E.R. each year after ingesting medication belonging to grandparents, and such cases of exposure to medicine through grandparents account for as many as 10-20% of all accidental medication poisonings.

http://www.keepyourchildsafe.org/child-safety-book/child-poisoning-facts-and-statistics.html

The fingerprint recognition option is one that I've heard about; one which could be virtually tamper proof.

Only issue with fingerprint method is that there is more of a risk of failure than there would be with a manual safety locking system. But I would still listen to the research on this as it is developed.

RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - F.U. - 01-22-2016

(01-22-2016, 02:56 PM)Duchess Wrote:
(01-22-2016, 02:52 PM)F.U. Wrote: You probably would. I couldn't keep up with the horses you usually ride.


Someone recently tried to shame me for not wearing a helmet. I made my horse prance sideways and watched her skiddle away like a mouse when I really wanted to say bite my fat ass, fuckface.

Helmets, now there is a topic for another thread.

RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - sally - 01-22-2016

(01-22-2016, 02:58 PM)F.U. Wrote:
(01-22-2016, 02:56 PM)Duchess Wrote:
(01-22-2016, 02:52 PM)F.U. Wrote: You probably would. I couldn't keep up with the horses you usually ride.


Someone recently tried to shame me for not wearing a helmet. I made my horse prance sideways and watched her skiddle away like a mouse when I really wanted to say bite my fat ass, fuckface.

Helmets, now there is a topic for another thread.

You're not hurting anyone but yourself by not wearing a helmet, so I don't think there should be helmet laws for adults on motorcycles. Seatbelts are different, however, since the driver has less control during a crash if they're not seat belted in and anyone in the back is going to fly up and hit the people in the front potentially causing serious injury. So it involves more than just an individual.

I'm ok with being made to wear a seatbelt just as I would be ok with mandatory safety features on guns and being made to use it. I'm not ok with being made to wear a helmet on a motorcycle just like I'm not ok with marijuana being a schedule 1 drug and being made not to smoke it or go to jail. See, this hen knows the difference.

RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - Maggot - 01-22-2016

How come there are no seat belts on school buses? should cops have guns with fingerprint security?

RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - HairOfTheDog - 01-22-2016

(01-22-2016, 03:28 PM)Maggot Wrote: How come there are no seat belts on school buses?

Because modern school buses are already remarkably safe in their weight and design. Seat belts are used on most short buses, but not standard long yellow buses because seat belts don't work the same way in buses as they do cars, research shows. Numerous federal and academic studies have concluded that school buses are the safest form of ground transportation, by far. http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/pdf/esv/esv19/05-0325-W.pdf

(01-22-2016, 03:28 PM)Maggot Wrote: should cops have guns with fingerprint security?

Why not? That could help reduce crimes committed with guns stolen from cops and help protect cops' small children.

Off the top of my head, I know of two recent homicides committed with guns stolen from cops, and one cop whose 3-year-old shot himself to death in December. And, hundreds of cops report losing their guns every year.