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RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - Cutz - 07-13-2015
(07-13-2015, 05:14 PM)blueberryhill Wrote: Here is link to the "Psychology of Gun Ownership" which will be of interest to some of you.
http://csgv.org/blog/2015/psychology
very interesting. Facts pulled from op-eds and studies that confuse correlation with causation. "People who get guns are more likely to be violent, because they have arrest records."
No, that means people with arrest records get guns, not the other way around. The bias is so unabated it's astounding.
RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - username - 07-13-2015
If they had smart guns (my idea) that gun wouldn't have been operative after it was stolen.
RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - F.U. - 07-13-2015
User, did you also come up with the serializing of bullets also? hahaha
RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - Cutz - 07-13-2015
No, but she thought up flying cars, jetpacks, and all the stuff you see in the Jetsons.
RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - username - 07-14-2015
(07-13-2015, 08:47 PM)F.U. Dont ask again Wrote: User, did you also come up with the serializing of bullets also? hahaha
What would be the point of that? That's a bad idea. All it tells you is where the bullet came from. By then dead is dead. My idea is much better.
RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - username - 07-14-2015
(07-13-2015, 10:45 PM)Cutz Wrote: No, but she thought up flying cars, jetpacks, and all the stuff you see in the Jetsons.
Those are very yesterday. Besides, we're talking about GUNS. Try to stay with the topic, suck clutz.
RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - Duchess - 07-14-2015
I'm not dissin' that poor family whose daughter was shot & killed with a stolen gun on the San Francisco waterfront but this morning it's being reported that they are a little peeved that the POTUS has not called them.
RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - Maggot - 07-14-2015
She was white.
RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - HairOfTheDog - 07-14-2015
(07-13-2015, 05:29 PM)Cutz Wrote:(07-13-2015, 05:14 PM)blueberryhill Wrote: Here is link to the "Psychology of Gun Ownership" which will be of interest to some of you.
http://csgv.org/blog/2015/psychology
very interesting. Facts pulled from op-eds and studies that confuse correlation with causation. "People who get guns are more likely to be violent, because they have arrest records."
No, that means people with arrest records get guns, not the other way around. The bias is so unabated it's astounding.
Don't kick yourself too hard Cutz.
You failed no more (or less) to distinguish correlation from causation in reaching an unabated biased conclusion than did the author of the linked article.
RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - Cutz - 07-14-2015
(07-14-2015, 09:20 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:Fine. There's a higher correlation of arrest records and gun ownership, without any inference as to which egg caused which chicken. I guess I should have said, "No, that COULD mean." Happy?(07-13-2015, 05:29 PM)Cutz Wrote:(07-13-2015, 05:14 PM)blueberryhill Wrote: Here is link to the "Psychology of Gun Ownership" which will be of interest to some of you.
http://csgv.org/blog/2015/psychology
very interesting. Facts pulled from op-eds and studies that confuse correlation with causation. "People who get guns are more likely to be violent, because they have arrest records."
No, that means people with arrest records get guns, not the other way around. The bias is so unabated it's astounding.
Don't kick yourself too hard Cutz.
You failed no more (or less) to distinguish correlation from causation in reaching an unabated biased conclusion than did the author of the linked article.
Doesn't change the fact that poorly supported propaganda is used by both sides of the gun debate to argue their cause.
RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - Jimbone - 07-14-2015
(07-14-2015, 06:07 AM)Duchess Wrote:
I'm not dissin' that poor family whose daughter was shot & killed with a stolen gun on the San Francisco waterfront but this morning it's being reported that they are a little peeved that the POTUS has not called them.
Hasn't the silence from 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue been pretty deafening? Plenty of other shootings Obama's been front and center flapping his mouth, but for some reason he can't even comment on this one?
A shooting involving an innocent victim, who was gunned down by an illegal alien in a sanctuary city will never garner a comment from a person who is pro-illegal alien and pro-sanctuary city. He can't call the parents because they don't fit his agenda, and singing 'Amazing Grace' at her funeral wouldn't have earned him any 'street cred' from his peeps.
He's a disgrace.
RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - HairOfTheDog - 07-14-2015
(07-14-2015, 06:07 AM)Duchess Wrote:
I'm not dissin' that poor family whose daughter was shot & killed with a stolen gun on the San Francisco waterfront but this morning it's being reported that they are a little peeved that the POTUS has not called them.
(07-14-2015, 08:05 AM)Maggot Wrote: She was white.
(07-14-2015, 09:34 AM)Jimbone Wrote:(07-14-2015, 06:07 AM)Duchess Wrote:
I'm not dissin' that poor family whose daughter was shot & killed with a stolen gun on the San Francisco waterfront but this morning it's being reported that they are a little peeved that the POTUS has not called them.
Hasn't the silence from 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue been pretty deafening? Plenty of other shootings Obama's been front and center flapping his mouth, but for some reason he can't even comment on this one?
A shooting involving an innocent victim, who was gunned down by an illegal alien in a sanctuary city will never garner a comment from a person who is pro-illegal alien and pro-sanctuary city. He can't call the parents because they don't fit his agenda, and singing 'Amazing Grace' at her funeral wouldn't have earned him any 'street cred' from his peeps.
He's a disgrace.
There's a lot of interesting discussion/debate surrounding the case.
A dedicated thread has been created, here: http://mockforums.net/showthread.php?tid=11975&pid=403842#pid403842
RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - HairOfTheDog - 07-14-2015
(07-14-2015, 09:33 AM)Cutz Wrote: Happy?
I'm typically fairly happy, yes.
How about you Mr. C; did you put on a happy face this morning?
RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - Cutz - 07-14-2015
No. I'm a grump. Harrumph.
RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - BlueTiki - 07-14-2015
(07-14-2015, 09:34 AM)Jimbone Wrote: Hasn't the silence from 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue been pretty deafening? Plenty of other shootings Obama's been front and center flapping his mouth, but for some reason he can't even comment on this one?
I guess Obama doesn't think: "Kate could be my daughter".
Like he did Trayvon Martin, as his son.
RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - Duchess - 07-14-2015
I wish he wouldn't comment on any of it.
RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - HairOfTheDog - 07-14-2015
It does reflect poorly on Obama when he comments on specific crimes against blacks, against Muslims, or committed by people who he believes could have been deterred by new gun controls he advocates.....but then stays silent when the politics surrounding a high-profile crime don't fit his agenda or actually work against it. IMO.
RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - SIXFOOTERsez - 07-14-2015
Yea, I haven't heard him say anything about all the blacks shooting blacks in Chicago, despite all the anti gun legislation there.
RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - HairOfTheDog - 07-14-2015
I have heard Obama address gun violence in Chicago's black community a couple of times Six, when he was also addressing the Newton shootings and the need for stronger families and gun control.
RE: GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY? - SIXFOOTERsez - 07-14-2015
Well, we see how its working in Chicago. Its the only city I have ever seen with a running weekend shooting score.
Oh, and thats where he is from isn't it?