2012 ELECTION

[Jimbone]

I have lived in border states many times over the years, and the "immigration problem" is a paper tiger. Hospitals don't close because of immigrants, they close because they are bought up by private insurance and medical corporations for the purpose of shutting them down. It's happened half a dozen times in my area with nary a Messican in sight. Further, the undocumented worker supply in border and harvesting states is damn near slave labor and supports our entire farm system at this point. Those people rarely see the inside of a decent home, let alone an emergency room. I've done business with migrant workers, and the conditions in which they exist in our country is generally pretty appalling.

What I said about the illegal immigrants being nonvoters is true. They don't have a bloc, so their voices are irrelevant. They don't matter except as a smoke screen.

As for "purely financial issue" I agree. In any situation where money is bleeding out at an aortic pace and entire economies are being drained like Robert Pattinson's prom date, in order to find the source of the problem you have to follow the flow of money to where it winds up.

And that sure as hell isn't the migrant worker population. There are people and corporations getting rich. Those people and corporations have the ear of the elected government because they spend and vote and pay for those elected officials, who must pander to as many sides as possible to get elected. And that is the answer to the OP question.

Hospitals close because they are unable to pay their bills or there is not demand for their service. Even if I concede that every for profit hospital closed because of greedy hospital barons, half of the closures in CA have been non-profit hospitals. They close because of reduced MediCal and MediCare reimbursements... included in that are reimbursements they could not claim because of the number of non-citizens they treat.

Also, as far as following the flow of money... you know I am talking about the money that flows into government programs and is then administered by government and social service agencies, right? I'm not talking about the corporate cronyism that is going on - I was strictly speaking of the public revenues that go into social services. It's been my experience that these agencies provide benefits to illegal aliens as easily as they provide them to citizens. These agencies then can claim higher service numbers, and justify their increasing budget request. It's the bureaucratic shuffle.

Trying to argue that illegal immigrants do not use up services or are somehow not accessing services intended for citizens would be disingenuous. It's happening in every state, not just border states.

Cheesus, we even have "sanctuary cities" that will openly flout established immigration policy.

It's a hot mess, just like user's nose.

He looked 92. It was embarrassing. If I were a loved one I wouldn't have let him do it...I bet he is crushed reading the reviews

I'm guessing Clint doesn't give a shit at this point in his life. He delivered a few lines that hit their mark, so I'm sure he's happy.