01-16-2013, 03:25 PM
F.U.
Thanks for the info on the Iowa permit loopholes and ATF stats in prosecuting those who falsify info on background forms. I agree that those kinds of loopholes (along with the felony hunting privilege) should be addressed as a priority; fixing and enforcing the laws that are in place makes more sense than throwing out new ones. I think that some of the laws that Obama is instituting by executive order focus on better administration and enforcement of existing federal laws, along with improvements to help keep the guns from the mentally ill. Those are steps in the right direction, imo.
From today's press conference:
Obama's plan calls on Congress for a renewed prohibition on assault weapons sales that expired in 2004, a requirement for criminal background checks on all gun purchases, including closing a loophole for gun show sales, and a new federal gun trafficking law - long sought by big-city mayors to keep out-of-state guns off their streets.
He also announced 23 steps he intends to take immediately without congressional approval. These include improvements in the existing system for background checks, lifting the ban on federal research into gun violence, putting more counselors and "resource officers" in schools and improved access to mental health services.
The most politically contentious piece of the package is Obama's call for a renewed ban on military-style assault weapons, a move that Republicans who control the House of Representatives are expected to oppose.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/1...NU20130116
Jim:
I don't think you're coming across as a nutter, just that you sometimes come across, to me, as thinking everyone that considers different viewpoints and angles is somehow less concerned than you, naïve, blind or disappointing. Maybe the heat isn't directed at me or others who question a strong view that you hold; maybe it's just general heat. Doesn't matter either way - it was just an observation, different attitudes is all...
I think that Obama is going to have a major fight on his hands with Republicans when it comes to new/renewed bans on some guns and ammo. It kinda rubbed me the wrong way that he had children surrounding him as he announced these new proposals, but I understand his strategy there. As far as the improvements in existing gun control administration and enforcement that are being passed by executive order, I don't even think that the NRA is objecting to most of those?
I'm disappointed that nothing was mentioned regarding public awareness efforts and reporting/follow-up guidelines for citizens and LE. Ah well, it was just an idea and there's noting to stop a centralized effort from being undertaken without the federal government serving as the central knowledge point (just more difficult to organize). Even without any kind of formal effort in that regard, it appears that the terrible reality of the Newton shootings has prompted more people to report suspicions and law enforcement to act quickly and seriously to such reports. I've seen several stories of thwarted attacks in the news since December. It would be most effective if there were guidelines to ensure that proactive reports continue to be followed-up on in a speedy and effective manner, even after Newton isn't on the forefront, to avoid things falling through the cracks like in Columbine. But, one step at a time...
Thanks for the info on the Iowa permit loopholes and ATF stats in prosecuting those who falsify info on background forms. I agree that those kinds of loopholes (along with the felony hunting privilege) should be addressed as a priority; fixing and enforcing the laws that are in place makes more sense than throwing out new ones. I think that some of the laws that Obama is instituting by executive order focus on better administration and enforcement of existing federal laws, along with improvements to help keep the guns from the mentally ill. Those are steps in the right direction, imo.
From today's press conference:
Obama's plan calls on Congress for a renewed prohibition on assault weapons sales that expired in 2004, a requirement for criminal background checks on all gun purchases, including closing a loophole for gun show sales, and a new federal gun trafficking law - long sought by big-city mayors to keep out-of-state guns off their streets.
He also announced 23 steps he intends to take immediately without congressional approval. These include improvements in the existing system for background checks, lifting the ban on federal research into gun violence, putting more counselors and "resource officers" in schools and improved access to mental health services.
The most politically contentious piece of the package is Obama's call for a renewed ban on military-style assault weapons, a move that Republicans who control the House of Representatives are expected to oppose.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/1...NU20130116
Jim:
I don't think you're coming across as a nutter, just that you sometimes come across, to me, as thinking everyone that considers different viewpoints and angles is somehow less concerned than you, naïve, blind or disappointing. Maybe the heat isn't directed at me or others who question a strong view that you hold; maybe it's just general heat. Doesn't matter either way - it was just an observation, different attitudes is all...
I think that Obama is going to have a major fight on his hands with Republicans when it comes to new/renewed bans on some guns and ammo. It kinda rubbed me the wrong way that he had children surrounding him as he announced these new proposals, but I understand his strategy there. As far as the improvements in existing gun control administration and enforcement that are being passed by executive order, I don't even think that the NRA is objecting to most of those?
I'm disappointed that nothing was mentioned regarding public awareness efforts and reporting/follow-up guidelines for citizens and LE. Ah well, it was just an idea and there's noting to stop a centralized effort from being undertaken without the federal government serving as the central knowledge point (just more difficult to organize). Even without any kind of formal effort in that regard, it appears that the terrible reality of the Newton shootings has prompted more people to report suspicions and law enforcement to act quickly and seriously to such reports. I've seen several stories of thwarted attacks in the news since December. It would be most effective if there were guidelines to ensure that proactive reports continue to be followed-up on in a speedy and effective manner, even after Newton isn't on the forefront, to avoid things falling through the cracks like in Columbine. But, one step at a time...