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A Debate on Feminism
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Feminism is a crock of shit and is one of the tranches the Progressive Stack of the polarised oppressor/oppressed ideological dogma that comprises Cultural Marxism. There is nothing empowering for many reasons.

The Marxists were trying to set up a class divide between the Proletariat and the Bourgeoisie. In this ideological narrative, the Bourgeoisie are the Oppressors and are by virtue of their class, immoral and their views and perceptions are wrong on the basis of their class. It is an original sin that could only be exculpated by divorcing themselves from their "oppressive" aspect of their identity.

The exactly opposite of course was true. The Proletariat because of their class were the oppressed and also the virtuous and moral. They were the ones to be elevated and believed and such. Any act by them to associate positively with the Bourgeoisie would be a taint and a sin or moral crime.

The Progressive Stack is an intersection of various tranches of similar binary and polarised divisions. There is Male/Female, Straight/Gay, Black/White, Cisgendered/Transgendered, and so on. All intersecting and building a Progressive Stack.

All these run under the same dogmatic and zealous divisiveness the identity politics of Marxism ideology promoted. The most successful of these in the Progressive Stack is Feminism. The reason Feminism is the most successful is because they have fostered a narrative very well and capitalised on an already evolving society to take credit for the changes wrought by such modernity.

If you are petitioning for differing rights and asking for more opportunities at a time that society is becoming more free then it is very easy to pretend that he CAUSE of the freeing up of society and all resulting opportunities given were as a result of the petitioning.

Do you know why Feminism does not work so well in Third World Countries? Same reason it did not work 200 years ago.

When the aspects of modernity that are existent in the Western World are not available in the past (or Third World) then society adjusts to the reality not of today but of then.

To put you in the right frame of mind. Everyone in your village knows the pain of a sister or brother or child of your own dying either in child birth or early infancy of accident, infection or disease. It is a communal pain and grief. Death of a mother in childbirth is a constant gamble.

In order for a couple to survive into old age they need to have many children. They have to run the odds that at least a couple of their 6-12 children will survive to an age that they can look after their parents.

But to get to this age and with so many children and with each birth being such a gamble, it means that the child bearing woman will need to be provided for and that she will spend pretty much all her fertile years either pregnant, nursing or raising these precious bundles and trying to keep herself and them healthy and not attacked by disease and such.

So she is out of the workforce.

What about the bloke? Well, if he has to support the whole ever growing family, he has to work. What kind of work? Well every child is an extra mouth to feed and so he will need to follow the pay rather ruthlessly. Extra mouth could be extra hours, or longer commute or more dangerous job or remote work.

Now we have painted a situation where rather unfortunate and restricted society roles are NOT a Patriarchal oppression but rather a couple working to mutual benefit and in the most reasonable and natural way, here comes another logical conclusion.

If women are staying at home looking after the kids and men are earning the money to support and look after the family, who should be responsible for all debt, taxes, court costs, fines, damages of whatever description? Who should not be? Who is given rights as needed to discharge these obligations and who has neither the obligations not the right to meet the obligations that they do not have? How's that Patriarchy looking?

So how might a society change from there to here?

How about.....vaccines? How about the pill? How about better pre and posts natal care? How about better sanitation? What about modern tampons? What about better child-birthing practices? What about social security? What about the Pension? What about Superannuation? What about time saving and effort saving domestic products? There are likely a lot of other wonders of modernity.

Without these things there would be no society as we have today and the social restrictions we had in yesteryear would be much as they were then and were for millennia. Feminists could have petitioned or burned their bras or burned themselves and it would have mattered little.

But society DID change and change for the better. These things in a span probably of about 40 years in scope of the backdrop of millennia is no time at all. To imagine we went a period of about 40 years when ALL of these things happened at the same time and ALL of them improved and freed up society to the point where restrictive roles were not necessitated and required AND in teh next 40 years here we all are is brilliant.

Society IS better. Perhaps the best it has ever been thanks to the benefits modernity have wrought.

Feminists quite humbly accept all of the benefit for the freeing up of gendered roles in society as a consequence of their actions and then blame men as the oppressors keeping them down.

Fucking idiots.
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A Debate on Feminism - by MirahM - 01-15-2019, 11:07 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by HairOfTheDog - 01-16-2019, 12:04 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by BigMark - 01-16-2019, 12:19 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Clang McFly - 01-16-2019, 12:43 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by MirahM - 01-16-2019, 02:07 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Fry Guy - 01-16-2019, 07:26 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by HairOfTheDog - 01-16-2019, 10:44 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by pyropappy - 01-16-2019, 03:48 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by HairOfTheDog - 01-16-2019, 07:16 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by pyropappy - 01-16-2019, 08:45 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Blindgreed1 - 01-17-2019, 08:51 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Maggot - 01-16-2019, 11:21 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by HairOfTheDog - 01-16-2019, 02:34 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-16-2019, 01:41 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Maggot - 01-16-2019, 02:13 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Maggot - 01-16-2019, 02:40 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by pyropappy - 01-16-2019, 04:04 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Fry Guy - 01-16-2019, 05:21 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Maggot - 01-16-2019, 05:36 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Clang McFly - 01-16-2019, 05:40 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-16-2019, 06:30 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by pyropappy - 01-16-2019, 07:32 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Maggot - 01-16-2019, 09:27 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Maggot - 01-16-2019, 09:42 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by BigMark - 01-16-2019, 11:05 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Fry Guy - 01-17-2019, 01:10 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by MirahM - 01-17-2019, 01:44 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Maggot - 01-17-2019, 11:11 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by BigMark - 01-17-2019, 03:49 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by pyropappy - 01-18-2019, 11:13 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-19-2019, 07:34 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by pyropappy - 01-19-2019, 08:45 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-19-2019, 11:48 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Clang McFly - 01-19-2019, 05:58 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-20-2019, 10:39 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by pyropappy - 01-20-2019, 11:44 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Fry Guy - 01-19-2019, 10:18 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by BigMark - 01-19-2019, 10:43 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Fry Guy - 01-21-2019, 12:35 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by pyropappy - 01-21-2019, 12:53 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Fry Guy - 01-21-2019, 04:08 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-21-2019, 07:03 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Fry Guy - 01-21-2019, 08:14 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-21-2019, 10:09 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Maggot - 01-21-2019, 11:04 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Fry Guy - 01-21-2019, 04:04 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-21-2019, 04:54 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by MirahM - 01-21-2019, 08:31 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Fry Guy - 01-22-2019, 09:37 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-22-2019, 02:34 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by BigMark - 01-22-2019, 03:13 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-22-2019, 03:21 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by BigMark - 01-22-2019, 04:45 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-22-2019, 04:47 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by BigMark - 01-22-2019, 04:56 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-22-2019, 05:03 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by BigMark - 01-22-2019, 06:05 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-22-2019, 06:51 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by MirahM - 01-22-2019, 10:49 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Maggot - 01-25-2019, 09:44 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by BigMark - 01-25-2019, 10:44 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-25-2019, 05:06 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Fry Guy - 01-25-2019, 04:54 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by BigMark - 01-25-2019, 06:18 PM