New York Times posts an article about Kay Jewelers

[Fry Guy]

Was there someone in this forum who complained about #MeToo?

As I was reading this article today I was thinking and wondering how certain posters in this forum would react to it. I was wondering who would say that the women were fine, they are happy, they have nothing to complain about or that they asked for it, wanted it, they could have left etc etc

I mean these sort of things happened back then, right? This is how companies were! Haven't we all seen Mad Men? Women should be happy they even were allowed to work!
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AND any woman that feels victimized by any of this-well she just did it to herself, and has only herself to blame, she should have stood up for herself, said no. Etc etc etc

The pay-and-promotions lawsuit against Sterling Jewelers Inc. began the way a lot of these things begin: In 2005, Dawn Souto-Coons walked out of the jewelry store where she had been a successful assistant manager and into a local Tampa-area employment office, claiming sex discrimination in her store. She had been working at a Jared the Galleria of Jewelry for nearly four years. But it was only in the last few months that she began to understand that the thing that kept happening to her there, the thing that seemed to keep happening to so many of the women there, went beyond the regular, standard-issue sexism she had been hearing about her whole life. But what woman is certain that the problem isn’t her, but them?

Oh fuck right off with that bullshit.

No one here is saying that the world is a perfect place and that there are no male or female rapists or that such people are good people (remember when HoTD tried pushing that another member here was a rape apologist? Stow that bullshit) nor is anyone saying that no bigotry exists.

But by contrast no one here should be stupid enough to suggest that women have no agency, are systematically oppressed by society at large, are afforded lesser opportunities or protection under the law.

Also if something terrible happens in A workplace, it does not mean it is widespread, acceptable or excused by society. Nor does it mean that every accusation against men should be believed and that not every unwelcome contact with a man is illegal or immoral or a reason to destroy someone.

The idiotic thing that Progressives do not get but Liberals do is that it is entirely possible for #MeToo to be more than the binary choice of:

1. All men accused by women as a result of #MeToo are evil monsters, all accusations must be believed, women have no agency or control of their bodies, all men are potential abusers, all examples of instances of situations where #MeToo had a desirable effect is proof of all instances and aspects of #MeToo being desirable.

2. Women make up all instances or rape and abuse, there could never be an instance of women being picked on bullied, devalued, or assaulted, #MeToo has no merit at all. Women deserve everything they get.

So if we can all be grown up enough to believe that only the fringe element are "all in" with either 1 or 2 above.

Why do you believe such fringe beliefs may be humoured by someone here and if so bt whom and why?