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A Debate on Feminism
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I think your point above is a good one. A lot of the Feminist fallback when critiqued is that of, "Feminism is just about wanting equality for both genders, and therefore if you don't believe in the virtues of Feminism you are an ignorant sexist".

See the shortcomings of this inane talking point is this, women have equality of opportunity. If the want for equality of opportunity is already there and we understand men and women are not the same and do have different strengths and weaknesses and different drives, then you are not a Feminist, you are an egalitarian. One who is celebrating that changes that society has had that allows this equality and those clever enough to have made those changes and those brave enough to try new things and those who once inequalities were found that hurt society, weremoral enough to legislate against them.

But an egaitarian is not going to entertain toxic masculinity, patriarchy, male privilege or Progressive Stack or the victim narratives demanding that minority ground have special treatment to obtain equal outcomes (not equality of opportunity). They will not pathologise one gender over the other or imply the other is oppressed BECAUSE THEY are about equality.

Feminism in anything but a superficial understanding is different from egalitarianism for all these reasons.

They are completely different ideologies with very little similarities
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A Debate on Feminism - by MirahM - 01-15-2019, 11:07 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by HairOfTheDog - 01-16-2019, 12:04 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by BigMark - 01-16-2019, 12:19 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Clang McFly - 01-16-2019, 12:43 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by MirahM - 01-16-2019, 02:07 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Fry Guy - 01-16-2019, 07:26 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by HairOfTheDog - 01-16-2019, 10:44 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by pyropappy - 01-16-2019, 03:48 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by HairOfTheDog - 01-16-2019, 07:16 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by pyropappy - 01-16-2019, 08:45 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Blindgreed1 - 01-17-2019, 08:51 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Maggot - 01-16-2019, 11:21 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by HairOfTheDog - 01-16-2019, 02:34 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-16-2019, 01:41 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Maggot - 01-16-2019, 02:13 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Maggot - 01-16-2019, 02:40 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by pyropappy - 01-16-2019, 04:04 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Fry Guy - 01-16-2019, 05:21 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Maggot - 01-16-2019, 05:36 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Clang McFly - 01-16-2019, 05:40 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-16-2019, 06:30 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by pyropappy - 01-16-2019, 07:32 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Maggot - 01-16-2019, 09:27 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Maggot - 01-16-2019, 09:42 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by BigMark - 01-16-2019, 11:05 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Fry Guy - 01-17-2019, 01:10 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by MirahM - 01-17-2019, 01:44 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Maggot - 01-17-2019, 11:11 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by BigMark - 01-17-2019, 03:49 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by pyropappy - 01-18-2019, 11:13 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-19-2019, 07:34 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by pyropappy - 01-19-2019, 08:45 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-19-2019, 11:48 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Clang McFly - 01-19-2019, 05:58 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-20-2019, 10:39 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by pyropappy - 01-20-2019, 11:44 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Fry Guy - 01-19-2019, 10:18 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by BigMark - 01-19-2019, 10:43 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Fry Guy - 01-21-2019, 12:35 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by pyropappy - 01-21-2019, 12:53 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Fry Guy - 01-21-2019, 04:08 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-21-2019, 07:03 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Fry Guy - 01-21-2019, 08:14 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-21-2019, 10:09 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Maggot - 01-21-2019, 11:04 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Fry Guy - 01-21-2019, 04:04 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-21-2019, 04:54 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by MirahM - 01-21-2019, 08:31 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Fry Guy - 01-22-2019, 09:37 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-22-2019, 02:34 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by BigMark - 01-22-2019, 03:13 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-22-2019, 03:21 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by BigMark - 01-22-2019, 04:45 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-22-2019, 04:47 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by BigMark - 01-22-2019, 04:56 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-22-2019, 05:03 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by BigMark - 01-22-2019, 06:05 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-22-2019, 06:51 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by MirahM - 01-22-2019, 10:49 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Maggot - 01-25-2019, 09:44 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by BigMark - 01-25-2019, 10:44 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-25-2019, 05:06 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Fry Guy - 01-25-2019, 04:54 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by BigMark - 01-25-2019, 06:18 PM