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A Debate on Feminism
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(01-16-2019, 03:48 PM)pyropappy Wrote:
(01-16-2019, 10:44 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: Another 'pro' of feminism..................it irks misogynists so much that it sometimes motivates the most extreme among them to go off on long tangents about how feminism and  people who push for gender equality are somehow ungrateful, stupid, and ruining everything!%$!  

That's a helpful warning sign for confident women/girls and the men who love/raise them, like a flashing red warning light.

In my experience, men who rail against those who actively support equal rights for females...........often have a problem with equality in general because they believe they're inherently entitled to  advantages over others  (women, immigrants, people in lower income brackets, etc).


The fallacy of your argument is the genders or sexes (  and there are only two) are equal; never were, never will be. Nature made us different for a reason; we each have a role to play in course of human events. The fact as to which sex is superior is simply based on what task is being performed. Men are better suited at some things, women out perform men at many things and some tasks are gender neutral. To deny this simple fact is pure lunacy. I will agree there are exceptions to every rule.

Now please do not make me point out the hypocrisy of your argument by pointing out the Constitution already grants you equal rights; feminism is trying to carve out special rights, and that is not equal. Have inequities existed in the past, pf course, but not to the extent portrayed by the radicals today. Most women in the past, not all, cherished the role of wife, mother and nurturer. Many still do.

Every person on this planet has their own skill set; mine is to serve as a bad example. Any person who feels they are better than any other person is an idiot, and the good news, you get to make that decision who is and who isn't. Then cut those who are out of your life, again your decision.
 
Pappy, with the exception of the part about the Constitution, you just posted the exact same sentiments that I did upthread --  men and women are not the same, one isn't inherently stronger/better than the other overall, not everyone has the same capabilities, and equality is not synonymous with sameness.  Clearly, we're on the same page in those regards.

Regarding the Constitution, it only applies to people in the United States.  Feminism and equal rights are, of course, global matters  In any case, the general rights guaranteed in the U.S. Constitution aren't always applied equally to all U.S. citizens in practice.  Thus the need for amendments and/or court interpretations, activism, and laws to correct unequal application of rights (such as the right of women and black people to vote, the right of gay couples to marry, the right of women to serve in the military, etc).
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A Debate on Feminism - by MirahM - 01-15-2019, 11:07 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by HairOfTheDog - 01-16-2019, 12:04 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by BigMark - 01-16-2019, 12:19 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Clang McFly - 01-16-2019, 12:43 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by MirahM - 01-16-2019, 02:07 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Fry Guy - 01-16-2019, 07:26 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by HairOfTheDog - 01-16-2019, 10:44 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by pyropappy - 01-16-2019, 03:48 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by HairOfTheDog - 01-16-2019, 07:16 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by pyropappy - 01-16-2019, 08:45 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Blindgreed1 - 01-17-2019, 08:51 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Maggot - 01-16-2019, 11:21 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by HairOfTheDog - 01-16-2019, 02:34 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-16-2019, 01:41 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Maggot - 01-16-2019, 02:13 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Maggot - 01-16-2019, 02:40 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by pyropappy - 01-16-2019, 04:04 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Fry Guy - 01-16-2019, 05:21 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Maggot - 01-16-2019, 05:36 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Clang McFly - 01-16-2019, 05:40 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-16-2019, 06:30 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by pyropappy - 01-16-2019, 07:32 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Maggot - 01-16-2019, 09:27 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Maggot - 01-16-2019, 09:42 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by BigMark - 01-16-2019, 11:05 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Fry Guy - 01-17-2019, 01:10 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by MirahM - 01-17-2019, 01:44 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Maggot - 01-17-2019, 11:11 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by BigMark - 01-17-2019, 03:49 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by pyropappy - 01-18-2019, 11:13 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-19-2019, 07:34 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by pyropappy - 01-19-2019, 08:45 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-19-2019, 11:48 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Clang McFly - 01-19-2019, 05:58 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-20-2019, 10:39 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by pyropappy - 01-20-2019, 11:44 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Fry Guy - 01-19-2019, 10:18 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by BigMark - 01-19-2019, 10:43 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Fry Guy - 01-21-2019, 12:35 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by pyropappy - 01-21-2019, 12:53 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Fry Guy - 01-21-2019, 04:08 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-21-2019, 07:03 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Fry Guy - 01-21-2019, 08:14 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-21-2019, 10:09 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Maggot - 01-21-2019, 11:04 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Fry Guy - 01-21-2019, 04:04 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-21-2019, 04:54 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by MirahM - 01-21-2019, 08:31 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Fry Guy - 01-22-2019, 09:37 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-22-2019, 02:34 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by BigMark - 01-22-2019, 03:13 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-22-2019, 03:21 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by BigMark - 01-22-2019, 04:45 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-22-2019, 04:47 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by BigMark - 01-22-2019, 04:56 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-22-2019, 05:03 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by BigMark - 01-22-2019, 06:05 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-22-2019, 06:51 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by MirahM - 01-22-2019, 10:49 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Maggot - 01-25-2019, 09:44 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by BigMark - 01-25-2019, 10:44 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-25-2019, 05:06 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Fry Guy - 01-25-2019, 04:54 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by BigMark - 01-25-2019, 06:18 PM