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A Debate on Feminism
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What I hear Fry Guy saying is that he disagrees with the definition of feminism. I think he is saying that though people who are feminists say they are for equal rights of the sexes-that it isn't really true-it is not actually even.
So a better word if one is actually for equality would be  egalatarian.

I haven't had the energy to weed through all of the posts in the thread. But the one thing that keeps coming to my mind and remains unanswered is the benefit that the feminism movement had for voting rights. If I understand correctly it did not properly represent people of color at that time so it was equal representation for all, but it was a step.

Quote:Fry Guy

Totally agree.
My daughter hates Feminists.
She sees in her own life, the parental support was all from her Father. She saw who the power was vested in with respect to courts and access and such growing up.
She also came to realise that there is no percentage or strength in playing the oppressed victimised minority. She is not unequal to boys. She has agency. She is not adrift in a sea of Patriarchy with tempests of toxic masculinity.
She is just a human like billions of fellow travellers, trying to get by and get what they can out of life, and owning her choices (good or bad) and with support and encouragement of a loving Dad.
Feminism be damned
Your daughter is lucky. Not everyone has had that opportunity. You could say she is growing up in an era where there are better opportunities, or maybe you have just taught her that so it would not have mattered what era she grew up in.
But at one time women did not have choices of what they were going to do out of highschool-usually it was get married and raise kids and stay at home.
Women have had to fight to have their place in the workplace, to have their voice heard. If it is called feminism then I don't care. Fry Guy not agreeing with the definition doesn't make it so, just because you believe women don't want equal rights for everyone-look at what they have had to fight against, but you wont' see that.

And OMG I was totally man-splaining in the first part of my post!

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A Debate on Feminism - by MirahM - 01-15-2019, 11:07 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by HairOfTheDog - 01-16-2019, 12:04 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by BigMark - 01-16-2019, 12:19 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Clang McFly - 01-16-2019, 12:43 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by MirahM - 01-16-2019, 02:07 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Fry Guy - 01-16-2019, 07:26 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by HairOfTheDog - 01-16-2019, 10:44 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by pyropappy - 01-16-2019, 03:48 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by HairOfTheDog - 01-16-2019, 07:16 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by pyropappy - 01-16-2019, 08:45 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Blindgreed1 - 01-17-2019, 08:51 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Maggot - 01-16-2019, 11:21 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by HairOfTheDog - 01-16-2019, 02:34 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-16-2019, 01:41 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Maggot - 01-16-2019, 02:13 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Maggot - 01-16-2019, 02:40 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by pyropappy - 01-16-2019, 04:04 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Fry Guy - 01-16-2019, 05:21 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Maggot - 01-16-2019, 05:36 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Clang McFly - 01-16-2019, 05:40 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-16-2019, 06:30 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by pyropappy - 01-16-2019, 07:32 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Maggot - 01-16-2019, 09:27 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Maggot - 01-16-2019, 09:42 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by BigMark - 01-16-2019, 11:05 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Fry Guy - 01-17-2019, 01:10 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by MirahM - 01-17-2019, 01:44 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Maggot - 01-17-2019, 11:11 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by BigMark - 01-17-2019, 03:49 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by pyropappy - 01-18-2019, 11:13 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-19-2019, 07:34 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by pyropappy - 01-19-2019, 08:45 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-19-2019, 11:48 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Clang McFly - 01-19-2019, 05:58 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-20-2019, 10:39 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by pyropappy - 01-20-2019, 11:44 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Fry Guy - 01-19-2019, 10:18 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by BigMark - 01-19-2019, 10:43 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Fry Guy - 01-21-2019, 12:35 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by pyropappy - 01-21-2019, 12:53 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Fry Guy - 01-21-2019, 04:08 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-21-2019, 07:03 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Fry Guy - 01-21-2019, 08:14 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-21-2019, 10:09 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Maggot - 01-21-2019, 11:04 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Fry Guy - 01-21-2019, 04:04 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-21-2019, 04:54 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by MirahM - 01-21-2019, 08:31 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Fry Guy - 01-22-2019, 09:37 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-22-2019, 02:34 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by BigMark - 01-22-2019, 03:13 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-22-2019, 03:21 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by BigMark - 01-22-2019, 04:45 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-22-2019, 04:47 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by BigMark - 01-22-2019, 04:56 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-22-2019, 05:03 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by BigMark - 01-22-2019, 06:05 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-22-2019, 06:51 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by MirahM - 01-22-2019, 10:49 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Maggot - 01-25-2019, 09:44 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by BigMark - 01-25-2019, 10:44 AM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Duchess - 01-25-2019, 05:06 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by Fry Guy - 01-25-2019, 04:54 PM
RE: A Debate on Feminism - by BigMark - 01-25-2019, 06:18 PM