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Nuclear Meltdown?
#41
The fallout thus far seems to have missed this state, but then again we don't really get any rain until july or august.
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#42
(03-29-2011, 06:47 PM)Duchess Wrote: DIE

hahhahhah I really hate pointing out the obvious, it takes so little imagination and originality.

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#43
On the News here tonight, it was said that a trace amount of radiation was detected on local radiation detectors. But not enough to be of concern. If it's of no concern, then why in the name of all that is holy mention it? hah

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#44
@ Carsman - yeah, that's a good point. Radiation is also cumulative so what does long term, low grade exposure mean? I don't have the slightest fucking idea. In Japan, they've made mention of plutonium being in the ground but followed with something about not being a significant amount. Uh, as I understand it, no amount of plutonium is safe. It's one of the most toxic substances known and it has a something like a 26,000 year half life.

One of the problems with following a story like this is that it's highly technical. I've been a little involved in a really long thread on it where there are people who understand the physics and how reactors work but I sort of glaze over on the scientific stuff. The MIT link that I posted here is pretty good at explaining things in layman's terms.

I read an article that the head of TEPCO has virtually disappeared and refused to meet with Japanese govt officials. One thing seems certain and that is the utility company is involved in obfuscation and covering up.

I just really hope these Japanese people are taking potassium iodide. I know that their regular diet is better than ours and that Miso soup and kelp were actually helpful after their radiation exposure from getting nuked.

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#45
(03-29-2011, 08:06 PM)Carsman Wrote: On the News here tonight, it was said that a trace amount of radiation was detected on local radiation detectors. But not enough to be of concern. If it's of no concern, then why in the name of all that is holy mention it? hah

They want you to know so that you can make an educated decision on if you want to be xrayed everyday for the rest of your life.



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#46
Vanishing act by Japanese executive during nuclear crisis raises questions

By Andrew Higgins, Monday, March 28, 10:20 PM

TOKYO — In normal times, Masataka Shimizu lives in The Tower, a luxury high-rise in the same upscale Tokyo district as the U.S. Embassy. But he hasn’t been there for more than two weeks, according to a doorman.

The Japanese public hasn’t seen much of him recently either. Shimizu, the president of Tokyo Electric Power Co., or Tepco, the company that owns a haywire nuclear power plant 150 miles from the capital, is the most invisible — and most reviled — chief executive in Japan.

Amid rumors that Shimizu had fled the country, checked into a hospital or committed suicide, company officials said Monday that their boss had suffered an unspecified “small illness” because of overwork after a 9.0-magnitude earthquake sent a tsunami crashing onto his company’s Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/vani...ltoafriend
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#47
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMJ2nt162...ure=fvwrel


Radiation underground and in the sky...


Apropos

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#48
(03-29-2011, 08:38 PM)IMaDick Wrote:
(03-29-2011, 08:06 PM)Carsman Wrote: On the News here tonight, it was said that a trace amount of radiation was detected on local radiation detectors. But not enough to be of concern. If it's of no concern, then why in the name of all that is holy mention it? hah

They want you to know so that you can make an educated decision on if you want to be xrayed everyday for the rest of your life.

When we start to Glow in the dark, will be the first sign we had too much play down of the effin mess!


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#49
(03-30-2011, 12:10 AM)shitstorm Wrote: Vanishing act by Japanese executive during nuclear crisis raises questions

By Andrew Higgins, Monday, March 28, 10:20 PM

TOKYO — In normal times, Masataka Shimizu lives in The Tower, a luxury high-rise in the same upscale Tokyo district as the U.S. Embassy. But he hasn’t been there for more than two weeks, according to a doorman.

The Japanese public hasn’t seen much of him recently either. Shimizu, the president of Tokyo Electric Power Co., or Tepco, the company that owns a haywire nuclear power plant 150 miles from the capital, is the most invisible — and most reviled — chief executive in Japan.

Amid rumors that Shimizu had fled the country, checked into a hospital or committed suicide, company officials said Monday that their boss had suffered an unspecified “small illness” because of overwork after a 9.0-magnitude earthquake sent a tsunami crashing onto his company’s Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/vani...ltoafriend

It would be interesting to see how many of the officials that are really in the know there, come down with "small illnesses" and flee the country!
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(03-30-2011, 12:10 AM)shitstorm Wrote: Vanishing act by Japanese executive during nuclear crisis raises questions

By Andrew Higgins, Monday, March 28, 10:20 PM

TOKYO — In normal times, Masataka Shimizu lives in The Tower, a luxury high-rise in the same upscale Tokyo district as the U.S. Embassy. But he hasn’t been there for more than two weeks, according to a doorman.

The Japanese public hasn’t seen much of him recently either. Shimizu, the president of Tokyo Electric Power Co., or Tepco, the company that owns a haywire nuclear power plant 150 miles from the capital, is the most invisible — and most reviled — chief executive in Japan.

Amid rumors that Shimizu had fled the country, checked into a hospital or committed suicide, company officials said Monday that their boss had suffered an unspecified “small illness” because of overwork after a 9.0-magnitude earthquake sent a tsunami crashing onto his company’s Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/vani...ltoafriend

He may as well just commit seppuku and get it over with.

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#51
(03-30-2011, 10:53 AM)Carsman Wrote:
(03-30-2011, 12:10 AM)shitstorm Wrote: Vanishing act by Japanese executive during nuclear crisis raises questions

By Andrew Higgins, Monday, March 28, 10:20 PM

TOKYO — In normal times, Masataka Shimizu lives in The Tower, a luxury high-rise in the same upscale Tokyo district as the U.S. Embassy. But he hasn’t been there for more than two weeks, according to a doorman.

The Japanese public hasn’t seen much of him recently either. Shimizu, the president of Tokyo Electric Power Co., or Tepco, the company that owns a haywire nuclear power plant 150 miles from the capital, is the most invisible — and most reviled — chief executive in Japan.

Amid rumors that Shimizu had fled the country, checked into a hospital or committed suicide, company officials said Monday that their boss had suffered an unspecified “small illness” because of overwork after a 9.0-magnitude earthquake sent a tsunami crashing onto his company’s Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/vani...ltoafriend

It would be interesting to see how many of the officials that are really in the know there, come down with "small illnesses" and flee the country!

Teevee news today was that TEPCO has admitted there is a meltdown (which reactor, I dunno) and they don't know what to do. I'm sure this sure we'll get conflicting news later tonight. Oh, yeah, and the workers are as good as dead. That is something that I HATE hearing. I knew it was likely but was hoping by some miracle it wouldn't be true.
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#52
Ugh. Those workers ARE heroes.

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#53
(03-30-2011, 10:07 PM)username Wrote: Ugh. Those workers ARE heroes.

Yes, they are. They could have said screw it and left. Then what would the world do because it sure it sure isn't doing much now.

Also on AC 360, last night, a reporter said that the workers are working 12 hour shifts, getting crackers in the morning and one meal at night. Anderson Cooper was like WTF? and the reporter just said that was the information they had been given. Who knows if it's true. If it is, I cannot even fathom WHY.

I am REALLY angry that all of this attention and money is being thrown at Libya when something so terrible is happening in Japan.
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#54
The battle to save the Fukushima nuclear power plant now appears lost as the radioactive core from Reactor No. 2 has melted through the containment vessel and dropped into the concrete basement of the reactor structure.

http://www.naturalnews.com/031894_Fukush...tdown.html
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#55
How can a thread on a double homicide go for a 1000 pages and there be so little interest in goddamn nuclear fucking meltdown?! WTF?
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#56
(03-31-2011, 03:49 PM)shitstorm Wrote: How can a thread on a double homicide go for a 1000 pages and there be so little interest in goddamn nuclear fucking meltdown?! WTF?

Agree with you here. A lot of the apathy comes from the fact it's on the other side of the world. If it were here in the U.S., people would be freaked out.
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#57
(03-31-2011, 03:49 PM)shitstorm Wrote: How can a thread on a double homicide go for a 1000 pages and there be so little interest in goddamn nuclear fucking meltdown?! WTF?

What would like the rest of us victims to do?

You know and I know that there is shit that can be done, we are radioactive sponges and when it's all said and done, the US will file a lawsuit and the government will prosper from our loss.

When was the last time that our elected officials listened to what we had to say and acted on it?

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#58
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f0AqYjWH...r_embedded
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#59
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-W7uGvW8x...r_embedded
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#60
Is Japan's Elite Hiding a Weapons Program Inside Nuclear Plants?

Confused and often conflicting reports out of Fukushima 1 nuclear plant cannot be solely the result of tsunami-caused breakdowns, bungling or miscommunication. Inexplicable delays and half-baked explanations from Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO) and the Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry (METI) seem to be driven by some unspoken factor.

The smoke and mirrors at Fukushima 1 seem to obscure a steady purpose, an iron will and a grim task unknown to outsiders. The most logical explanation: The nuclear industry and government agencies are scrambling to prevent the discovery of atomic-bomb research facilities hidden inside Japan's civilian nuclear power plants.

A secret nuclear weapons program is a ghost in the machine, detectable only when the system of information control momentarily lapses or breaks down. A close look must be taken at the gap between the official account and unexpected events.

Conflicting Reports

TEPCO, Japan’s nuclear power operator, initially reported three reactors were operating at the time of the March 11 Tohoku earthquake and tsunami. Then a hydrogen explosion ripped Unit 3, run on plutonium-uranium mixed oxide (or MOX). Unit 6 immediately disappeared from the list of operational reactors, as highly lethal particles of plutonium billowed out of Unit 3. Plutonium is the stuff of smaller, more easily delivered warheads.

A fire ignited inside the damaged housing of the Unit 4 reactor, reportedly due to overheating of spent uranium fuel rods in a dry cooling pool. But the size of the fire indicates that this reactor was running hot for some purpose other than electricity generation. Its omission from the list of electricity-generating operations raises the question of whether Unit 4 was being used to enrich uranium, the first step of the process leading to extraction of weapons-grade fissionable material.

The bloom of irradiated seawater across the Pacific comprises another piece of the puzzle, because its underground source is untraceable (or, perhaps, unmentionable). The flooded labyrinth of pipes, where the bodies of two missing nuclear workers—never before disclosed to the press— were found, could well contain the answer to the mystery: a lab that none dare name.

Political Warfare

In reaction to Prime Minister Naoto Kan's demand for prompt reporting of problems, the pro-nuclear lobby has closed ranks, fencing off and freezing out the prime minister's office from vital information. A grand alliance of nuclear proponents now includes TEPCO, plant designer General Electric, METI, the former ruling Liberal Democratic Party and, by all signs, the White House.

Cabinet ministers in charge of communication and national emergencies recently lambasted METI head Banri Kaeda for acting as both nuclear promoter and regulator in charge of the now-muzzled Nuclear and Industrial Safety Commission. TEPCO struck back quickly, blaming the prime minister's helicopter fly-over for delaying venting of volatile gases and thereby causing a blast at Reactor 2. For "health reasons,” TEPCO 's president retreated to a hospital ward, cutting Kan's line of communication with the company and undermining his site visit to Fukushima 1.

Kan is furthered hampered by his feud with Democratic Party rival Ichiro Ozawa, the only potential ally with the clout to challenge the formidable pro-nuclear coalition

The head of the Liberal Democrats, which sponsored nuclear power under its nearly 54-year tenure, has just held confidential talks with U.S. Ambassador John Roos, while President Barack Obama was making statements in support of new nuclear plants across the U.S.

Cut Off From Communications

The substance of undisclosed talks between Tokyo and Washington can be surmised from disruptions to my recent phone calls to a Japanese journalist colleague. While inside the radioactive hot zone, his roaming number was disconnected, along with the mobiles of nuclear workers at Fukushima 1 who are denied phone access to the outside world. The service suspension is not due to design flaws. When helping to prepare the Tohoku crisis response plan in 1996, my effort was directed at ensuring that mobile base stations have back-up power with fast recharge.

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http://newamericamedia.org/2011/04/is-ja...plants.php
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