(03-19-2011, 07:22 PM)Maggot Wrote: WWIII started 6 yrs ago.
2005?
*thinks*
"China has announced the first details of a controversial law that would allow it to use force against Taiwan ... China sees Taiwan as its territory, and has threatened to use force if the island formally declares independence. Taiwanese lawmakers responded quickly and angrily to the proposed legislation, saying it was a pretext for attack." -- bbcnews. This is part of the plan for World War 3: after the war is sparked in the Middle East, a nuclear confrontation on the Korean Peninsula will erupt which will threaten the existence of all mankind. Thereafter China will invade Taiwan.
Libya and Bahrain: Neutering the Constitution, heading for disaster
Michael Scheuer
For all of its proven and admirable lethality, ferocity, and tenacity the U.S. Air Force and NATO’s air forces have definitively shown that air power alone never wins anything. Even with large ground-force contingents, for example, the combined U.S. and NATO air forces have not been able to stave off defeat in Iraq and Afghanistan at the hands of insurgents armed mostly with Korean War-era weapons.
So the die is cast regarding Libya, and the West will fail in its arrogant military endeavor. With Gaddafi’s forces already in Benghazi’s outskirts, the war will quickly become a street-by-street, infantry fight in which the Libyan army’s artillery, armor, and troops can only be destroyed from the air at the cost of destroying much of the city and its civilian population. At this, of course, our effeminate progressive warriors will blanche, realizing that war is not a clean business (a fact not taught at Harvard) and that Gaddafi has lured them into a situation that cannot be “won” from the air. What then? What else? U.S. Marines, British commandos, French legionnaires, and Canadian infantry will be deployed to do what Western leaders will describe as a short operation to “mop up the remnants” of Gaddafi’s forces that air power did not kill. Many months later those troops officially will still be “mopping up,” but actually will be in the midst of a life-and-death fight with Gaddafi’s forces; the veteran Libyan Islamist mujahedin who were at core of the anti-Gaddafi resistance until the West intervened; and other veteran mujahedin who will come — with aid from wealthy Gulf Arab donors — from Morocco, Algeria, Egypt, Tunisia, Mauritania, and Sudan to fight the infidel invaders and occupiers.
*Michael F. Scheuer (born 1952[1]) is an American blogger, historian, foreign policy critic, and political analyst. He is currently an adjunct professor at Georgetown University's Center for Peace and Security Studies. He was formerly an intelligence officer at the Central Intelligence Agency. In his 22-year career, he served as the Chief of the Bin Laden Issue Station (aka "Alec Station"), from 1996 to 1999, the Osama bin Laden tracking unit at the Counterterrorist Center. He then worked again as Special Advisor to the Chief of the bin Laden unit from September 2001 to November 2004.
Scheuer became a public figure after being outed as the anonymous author of the 2004 book Imperial Hubris, in which he criticized many of the United States' assumptions about Islamist insurgencies and particularly Osama bin Laden. He depicts bin Laden as a rational actor who is fighting to weaken the United States by weakening its economy, rather than merely combating and killing Americans. He challenges the common assumption that terrorism is the threat that the United States is facing in the modern era, arguing rather that Islamist insurgency (and not "terrorism")[2] is the core of the conflict between the U.S. and Islamist forces, who in places such as Kashmir, Xinjiang, and Chechnya are "struggling not just for independence but against institutionalized barbarism."[2][3] Osama bin Laden acknowledged the book in a 2007 statement, suggesting that it revealed "the reasons for your losing the war against us".[4][5]
In February 2009, Scheuer was terminated from his position as a senior fellow of The Jamestown Foundation. Scheuer has written that he was fired by the organization for stating that "the current state of the U.S.-Israel relationship undermined U.S. national security."[6]
(03-19-2011, 11:43 PM)shitstorm Wrote: Okay, Fox Snooze on (Geraldo) and some Republican congressman from California actually mentioned WMDs.
They are not seriously going to try that bullshit story again are they?
Saying that there are some retards here who still think the original WMD claim was true despite the complete lack of any evidence.
Then again there are a number of people here drinking the Faux news koolaid 24⁄7 so I suppose its worth a try.
It was just a few years ago that Gaddafi admitted to having some kind of WMDs (dunno what kind) and invited the international community in to destroy them. I presume they took him up on that offer.
Once again, I find myself wondering what the real truth is. Was/is Libya REALLY a brutal police state where nobody had an freedom or is that something we're being fed? There's this anonymous woman that CNN keeps interviewing, by phone, who is a sort of mouthpiece for the cause of intervention. Last night she said she wasn't all scared by bombing going on around her because she knew only the bad guys were getting it. Really? Who isn't scared when bombs and rockets are exploding all over the place. I'm starting to think she's a paid shill.
(03-20-2011, 01:23 PM)shitstorm Wrote: Libya and Bahrain: Neutering the Constitution, heading for disaster
Michael Scheuer
With Gaddafi’s forces already in Benghazi’s outskirts, the war will quickly become a street-by-street, infantry fight in which the Libyan army’s artillery, armor, and troops can only be destroyed from the air at the cost of destroying much of the city and its civilian population. At this, of course, our effeminate progressive warriors will blanche, realizing that war is not a clean business (a fact not taught at Harvard) and that Gaddafi has lured them into a situation that cannot be “won” from the air. What then? What else? U.S. Marines, British commandos, French legionnaires, and Canadian infantry will be deployed to do what Western leaders will describe as a short operation to “mop up the remnants” of Gaddafi’s forces that air power did not kill.
(03-19-2011, 07:30 PM)username Wrote: Here's my problem with this endeavor. Obama is saying that he doesn't intend to send groundtroops in to Libya. Check. The goal of this effort is to prevent Gadhafi from killing his own "citizens". Check. So, once we bomb the shit out of their air defense systems and set up a no-fly zone, and bomb any tanks or military that appear to be threatening the rebels/citizens then what? Do we patrol there forever?
And suppose Gadhafi were to step down (haha), get himself killed or some of his own military turns against him. Then what? What's left is a great, big power vacuum.
I don't think we've learned that you can't just go in and blow up a regime without having some plan or infrastructure in place. Chaos ensues and then, of course, we have to send in "peacekeepers" while a new regime is established and some semblance of order is restored. Witness, Iraq.
And Libya seems to be just one in a series of dominoes that are teetering or falling in that area. To the extent that rebel activity is somewhat succeeding in one area, it seems to be inciting more activity in other areas. The whole freaking area is a powder keg right now.
Smells like ^^THIS, and he and Jimmy Carter were the SOBs who got the US involved in this radical Islam bullshit in the first place.
Brzezinski is a poisonous little reptile of a man. Check out clips of him on youtube and take particular notice of his eyes, they really are completely cold and emotionless.
We need to punish the French, ignore the Germans and forgive the Russians - Condoleezza Rice.
(03-20-2011, 01:23 PM)shitstorm Wrote: In February 2009, Scheuer was terminated from his position as a senior fellow of The Jamestown Foundation. Scheuer has written that he was fired by the organization for stating that "the current state of the U.S.-Israel relationship undermined U.S. national security."[6]
Amazing how such a small population has managed to gain so much power. And they've conditioned the majority of US citizens to turn a blind eye.
(03-20-2011, 02:01 PM)Ordinary Peephole Wrote: Brzezinski is a poisonous little reptile of a man. Check out clips of him on youtube and take particular notice of his eyes, they really are completely cold and emotionless.
Yes, he's cold AND brilliant, which is scary. He has a lot of sway with the administration. His son was an Obama foreign policy adviser.
(03-20-2011, 01:23 PM)shitstorm Wrote: In February 2009, Scheuer was terminated from his position as a senior fellow of The Jamestown Foundation. Scheuer has written that he was fired by the organization for stating that "the current state of the U.S.-Israel relationship undermined U.S. national security."[6]
Amazing how such a small population has managed to gain so much power. And they've conditioned the majority of US citizens to turn a blind eye.
(03-20-2011, 02:59 PM)shitstorm Wrote: Yes, he's cold AND brilliant, which is scary. He has a lot of sway with the administration. His son was an Obama foreign policy adviser.
I wouldn't trust the fuck as far as I could throw him, here he is with his old mate Osama Bin Laden.
We need to punish the French, ignore the Germans and forgive the Russians - Condoleezza Rice.
Latest news...we sent a few tomahawk missiles in to Gadhafi's compound.
The debate...has the game changed and are we going outside of the U.N. resolution and targeting Gadhafi or were we taking out a command center?
Duh. If we wanted to blow up his entire fucking compound, it seems apparent that we could. That was damn good aim. (note: refer back to my earlier post confessing a certain amount of sick fascination with these "unique capabilities" that we seemingly possess).
Tactiful exact pinpointed precision is a trademark of American technical superiority. When they say civilians have been killed they really mean the terrorist have used them as a human shield. It is a tactic they use constantly.
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(note: refer back to my earlier post confessing a certain amount of sick fascination with these "unique capabilities" that we seemingly possess).
