Witchy Women

[Riotgear]

Nah, that's just scared little men telling stories about the women who sexuality they couldn't control.

[Duchess]

Witches!

[Riotgear]

Women - God's second mistake.

[HairOfTheDog]

Nah, that's just scared little men telling stories about the women who sexuality they couldn't control.

Maybe.

The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe is a great story, imo. C.S.Lewis is thought to have based the "White Witch" character on Haggard's She character, or possibly the The Snow Queen by Hans Christian Andersen.

Perhaps C.S. Lewis actually based the White Witch on a stoney woman from his real life (or Haggard or Andersen did)? It's possible.

Does the depiction of witches in literature trace back to some man's displeasure with a strong woman? IDK...

[Duchess]

Does the depiction of witches in literature trace back to some man's displeasure with a strong woman? IDK...

I don't find that to be a stretch at all.

We all know how some men feel about strong women & then there are those that consider them to be their equal.

[Riotgear]

Nah, that's just scared little men telling stories about the women who sexuality they couldn't control.

Maybe.

The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe is a great story, imo. C.S.Lewis is thought to have based the "White Witch" character on Haggard's She character, or possibly the The Snow Queen by Hans Christian Andersen.

Perhaps C.S. Lewis actually based the White Witch on a stoney woman from his real life (or Haggard or Andersen did)? It's possible.

Does the depiction of witches in literature trace back to some man's displeasure with a strong woman? IDK...

Yes. But strong is the wrong word. That's a modern concept.

[HairOfTheDog]

Witches!

I've passed by The Witches of Eastwick on television a few times, but never watched it (even though I like Jack Nicholson and Susan Sarandon). Sexy witches; one day I'll have to watch it.

He controls them, right? Probably written by a man, if so...

[HairOfTheDog]

Nah, that's just scared little men telling stories about the women who sexuality they couldn't control.

Maybe.

The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe is a great story, imo. C.S.Lewis is thought to have based the "White Witch" character on Haggard's She character, or possibly the The Snow Queen by Hans Christian Andersen.

Perhaps C.S. Lewis actually based the White Witch on a stoney woman from his real life (or Haggard or Andersen did)? It's possible.

Does the depiction of witches in literature trace back to some man's displeasure with a strong woman? IDK...

Yes. But strong is the wrong word. That's a modern concept.

"Disobedient"?

[Duchess]

*snicker*

[Riotgear]

Nah, that's just scared little men telling stories about the women who sexuality they couldn't control.

Maybe.

The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe is a great story, imo. C.S.Lewis is thought to have based the "White Witch" character on Haggard's She character, or possibly the The Snow Queen by Hans Christian Andersen.

Perhaps C.S. Lewis actually based the White Witch on a stoney woman from his real life (or Haggard or Andersen did)? It's possible.

Does the depiction of witches in literature trace back to some man's displeasure with a strong woman? IDK...

Yes. But strong is the wrong word. That's a modern concept.

"Disobedient"?

Also a mostly modern concept. Sexuallity that isn't controlled would probably be more accurate.

[HairOfTheDog]

"Disobedient"?

Also a mostly modern concept. Sexuallity that isn't controlled would probably be more accurate.

You lost me. Disobedience is a concept that goes back to Adam and Eve (whether you consider the Bible literature as fact or fiction). Disobeying God's instruction, thereby undermining his authority and their required faith in him, is what caused their reported downfall. The concept of women submitting to their husbands and staying chaste until marriage (disobeying of either being considered sins) also traces back to biblical times.

Are you talking about "civil disobedience" being mostly a modern concept?

[Riotgear]

"Disobedient"?

Also a mostly modern concept. Sexuallity that isn't controlled would probably be more accurate.

You lost me. Disobedience is a concept that goes back to Adam and Eve (whether you consider the Bible literature as fact or fiction). Disobeying God's instruction, thereby undermining his authority and their required faith in him, is what caused their reported downfall. The concept of women submitting to their husbands and staying chaste until marriage (disobeying of either being considered sins) also traces back to biblical times.

You figure it was a woman who wrote that?

[HairOfTheDog]

"Disobedient"?

Also a mostly modern concept. Sexuallity that isn't controlled would probably be more accurate.

You lost me. Disobedience is a concept that goes back to Adam and Eve (whether you consider the Bible literature as fact or fiction). Disobeying God's instruction, thereby undermining his authority and their required faith in him, is what caused their reported downfall. The concept of women submitting to their husbands and staying chaste until marriage (disobeying of either being considered sins) also traces back to biblical times.

You figure it was a woman who wrote that?

Nah, but no matter which male rendition you read, disobedience (sexually or otherwise) is not a modern concept.

Witchy women, we've been around since the beginning...

[Riotgear]

Ok

[Riotgear]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sati_(goddess)

[Maggot]

I sometimes think witches were invented by women out of boredom and lack of attention.

[HairOfTheDog]

I sometimes think witches were invented by women out of boredom and lack of attention.

If so, we really got burned for it in the 1600s.

The oldest literary witch that I know about is Circe from The Odyssey, which was written around 700 B.C.E. IIRC and is based on established Greek mythology.

I don't know if some male (or female) authors based their later literary witches on real life people that they could not control sexually or with whom they were otherwise displeased in some way. There are so many witches in all mediums of fiction that odds are it's true in some cases. IRL, bored women attempting to gain attention by ascribing themselves supernatural powers? - yeah there's probably always been some of that too.

Whatever the reasons, it's interesting that witches play such a significant role in all forms of entertainment, to this day.


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