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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - jash - 02-16-2011 Ok..I have taken all of TIFF answers and put them in chronological order. Some, I have not prefaced with the questions because I think we're all smart enough to deduce the question from her answer. I have also included the convo between tiff and miranda with Miranda posting tiff's answers before she officially joined. If you read what I highlighted in red....the story is the same, it is just told in such a way, that it is confusing...particularly if you are also assuming what Maytee has put out there "THat johnny dropped the phone" Tiff says that is a lie, and if it is true...her story makes sense now. It's just the way it was being told. I even had to edit this post because I thought her story had changed, but it did not...does everyone see what I see now? Tiffany Williams February 16 at 4:21pm Report okay well i just figored out how 2 be able to post on the site last night,ive been trying to get on there i thought i was blocked.but as you ask.i'll answer any questions you and anyone else has to ask.okkay never did i say the house was ransacked.thst never came out of my mouth.that came from maytee(johnny's mother).she is the one who said i said that.just as she said i said i heard johnny drop the phone that was a lie.johnny told me he would call me back.thats why i didnt call anyone.then when a hour went by and he didnt answer him or lisa thats when i drove out there.and there was no answer.so see if everyone knew the whole story then they could judge.but maytee is making me look bad because she aint telling the truth. Tiffany Williams February 16 at 4:50pm Report i guess johnnys ma said she wanted the site took down because she got banned from it because she was talkin about choppin bodys up n pouring acid on them.. Tiffany Williams February 16 at 4:58pm Report i kno and ive did as much as i could 2 do 2 help..i want the same as others ..and u kno yea those are my friends but how would u feel if u were getting the blame for ur friends death if all u were doin was tryn to help.thats all i did n now the blame is on me by every1.maytee should of told the truth about the story that was told not a lie ..but u kno wut i feel they will find out who did it and who ever blamed me can kiss my ass.i could nt even attend benefits or funerals because of this bullshit thats fuked up that shyt hurts.but theres nothing i can do.i guess jus sit back n let the cops do there job and get justice for this O ok so u knew johnny first/longer? Tiffany Williams February 16 at 5:14pm Report yup had u ever meet Johnnys mother before all this How well did u know Johnny? How well did u know Lisa? Tiffany Williams February 16 at 5:09pm Report good enough...well i met lisa thru johnny.. i did not tell any 1 i was goin to lisa house.it was not a party.as i was speaking with lisa her an johnny asked did i want to come over and i said yes.we hung up and i called johnny rite back to tell him i was goin to the stor e when he got to my house jus walk in.and thats when i heard him talking to that man. Did you conspire to rob the Straubs and have Johnny and Lisa killed for drugs no i did not. Hi Tiffany - a question. When you got the house, that night, did you just knock on the door, or did you try to look in the wondows? Also, if you had other transportation that night, why did you need a ride from Johnny & Lisa? yes i did knock and also i rang the door bell for about 5 minutes.and on lisas fron door there are 2 big windows on the side of them yes i did look in i did not see them.and i did not have transportation that night.when they did not answer after a hour i woke up my friends ma n asked to use her car. & what exactly did you hear Johnny & the man say ? johnnys exact words were "bro wut r u doin"...and then he said tiff ima call u back.thats y i didnt call any one.he said hed call me back.after a hour of him not answering or showing up thats when i drove there. so what about all the lights being on and the cabinets opened? the lights were on and at the top of the stairs which the stairs are right at the front door there was a closet opened.but never did i say the house was ransacked.johnnys mother said i said that.that was a lie When you heard the guy talking to Johnny was it in a loud threatning voice? Do you recognize his voice, or have any idea who the killers are? Also will you cell phone records verify you were where you say you were during these phone calls? i could not hear what the other guy was sayin he sounded kinda far away but also johnny kept asking him bro who are you so he was talking over the man.i only heard 1 voice tho.yes the phone calls did verify. Just listened to you on the 911 call and I'm curious about something. i also told the police the exact story.he did say he would call me back.and after i left the first time i drove back and then called a friend whos boyfriend is johnnys best friend .i asked for the number she would not give it to me.she told me stay by my phone shed call me back an 20 minutes later johnnys dad called i told him what happened and told him i was driving back there did he want a ride he said yes so i turned around and picked him up thats why all the time went by. the only people they said(the police) not to talk to is johnnys family.and thats because of the threats.no they did not tell me i could nt leave town. no i did not hear lisa.(on the phone) johnny said bro wut r u doing. and i could not hear what the man said. my boyfriend was at home doing a paper for school. no i was not going alone another one of are friends was going also. i have no idea who murdered them.i really dont feel comfortable answering questions about them doing or being involved with drugs....thats to much info on them that i dont want to post.sorry.! no my boyfriend does not live alone and he is also clear he took a polygraph for them and passed. i really dont know why this happened.im just as lost as the others when it comes to who did this and why. personaly i think the lady(Maytee) is crazy.i did not kno her i met her the night of all of this.an as soon as i told her he wasnt answering the phone she said it was my fault.i set her son up. yes i think she is against me and others i left while the police were ther this was the first time his dad was there.the police said to go they didnt see nothing wrong.i guess johnnys dad went back and kicked the door in.i was not there we were just going to shoot some pool for a lil bit.no 1 knew we were going to be there and no1 else was coming over the reason they kept my boyfriend is because he had a warrant for fta..failure to appear for traffic tickets. i dont htink it was a robbery i thnk it was more personal than what we all know.and ive heard alot of rumors...come on its all rumors what they saying about me .so that should tell you something me another friend johnny and lisa yes it is the minor.and just so everyone knows he was just a friend ... he has been questioned also it is true they used the garage door to get in the house.the garage door was closed when i got there.and when the police got there the lights were still on.and i have no idea what the intraband pants are either. did not go to the back og the house and thats were they siad they looked in.so im not sure.and i really cant say about the mother .im confused to all this to. yes i was there 1 other time.(Straub home) Had he (Johnny) ever commented to you about anyone being angry at him for any reason? yes the guy he told on that was involved with his robbery. thank you and god bless but no johnnys family wasnt thankful they blamed me.and youre also welcome for coming and answering your questions.also.i got to go for a moment but i will return to answer some more for all of you.god bless you all RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - tiffwill123 - 02-16-2011 (02-16-2011, 11:22 PM)kfran Wrote: Tiffany- thank you for being brave & coming to Mock. You didn't have to put yourself out there & you did. So I say kudos to you. I hope you & your unborn child will have peace in your future. God bless! thank you maam...god bless you also RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - jash - 02-16-2011 At first, I thought her answers here were different, but they are not, as you can see from the highlighted in red. Now, do the 911 calls, taken in this context, also jive? What I mean is, if you wade thru the confusion, what did she say? MINUS what Maytee said..I don't think Im making sense here, help anyone? RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - JsMom - 02-16-2011 G..nite everyone~Thanks for welcoming me~Catch up with u all tomorrow! RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - jash - 02-16-2011 Quote:im sorry but youre reading it the wrong way i just made it shorter to her and said the exact on mock.sorry if you read it wrong. Tiff, I reposted my original post and edited out that I thought your statements were different on here because they are not. I apologize. It's the way it is being told that is confusing to people I believe, and also the 911 calls being thrown in. That's why I asked for help in jiving the 911 calls to what was stated here tonite. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 02-16-2011 (02-16-2011, 11:27 PM)jash Wrote: At first, I thought her answers here were different, but they are not, as you can see from the highlighted in red. Now, do the 911 calls, taken in this context, also jive? What I mean is, if you wade thru the confusion, what did she say? MINUS what Maytee said..I don't think Im making sense here, help anyone? THANK YOU! her answers are the same, good grief! You ARE making sense, lol I'm with you! Some of the things we're questioning are all things Maytee said, NOT Tiffany. I need a cigarette!!!! RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Methusala - 02-16-2011 Tiffany, I had asked you: When was the time , before the night before the murders, when you were at the Straubs house, and who else was there then? Were Lisa's parents around? RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - doing40thisyear - 02-16-2011 sorry Tiff but I dont believe you..I just dont believe you...... RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - jash - 02-16-2011 TH Quote:ANK YOU! her answers are the same, good grief! You ARE making sense, lol I'm with you! Some of the things we're questioning are all things Maytee said, NOT Tiffany. I need a cigarette!!!! I've smoked about a pack tonite wading thru all this stuff! lol TIFF WAS consistent on here tonite..no change of story posted here. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 02-16-2011 I have another question. Didn't you say something about Johnny or Lisa's phone going dead, during the 911 call? I'm confused about that part. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Lady Cop - 02-16-2011 (02-16-2011, 11:33 PM)Methusala Wrote: Tiffany, I had asked you: good luck. i'm getting ignored too. i'm sure it was overwhelming for her to field this. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - doing40thisyear - 02-16-2011 (02-16-2011, 11:13 PM)tiffwill123 Wrote:(02-16-2011, 10:42 PM)doing40thisyear Wrote:(02-16-2011, 10:28 PM)Love Hippos Wrote:I glad someone is agreeing! Her answers to the questions were not jiving. Also why cant you answer....that they( JC AND LS) were into drugs or not, you putting everything else out there.(02-16-2011, 10:25 PM)doing40thisyear Wrote: Im sorry But ...I still dont believe anything TW says. Sorry...I think she was involved in my opinion. yes this is how i feel sorry... RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Love Hippos - 02-16-2011 (02-16-2011, 11:27 PM)jash Wrote: At first, I thought her answers here were different, but they are not, as you can see from the highlighted in red. Now, do the 911 calls, taken in this context, also jive? What I mean is, if you wade thru the confusion, what did she say? MINUS what Maytee said..I don't think Im making sense here, help anyone? This is the point I'm obviously having trouble conveying. The stories don't jive...at least the part about when Tiffany tried to get back in touch with Johnny. She mentioned to us/Miranda she WAITED AN HOUR after she hung up with Johnny because he told her he'd call her back, yet she relayed to the 911 dispatcher that she called him back IMMEDIATELY after hearing him yelling at someone. When exactly did Tiffany become concerned and try to locate Johnny and Lisa? RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - jash - 02-16-2011 I think we need to completely seperate Maytee statements from Tiff statements. If you take them together, you comingle, and hence the confusion. Maytee did NOT talk to Johnny so anything she says HE said that night is second, third, or fourth hand at best, and we all know how that goes! RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 02-16-2011 (02-16-2011, 11:34 PM)jash Wrote: THQuote:ANK YOU! her answers are the same, good grief! You ARE making sense, lol I'm with you! Some of the things we're questioning are all things Maytee said, NOT Tiffany. I need a cigarette!!!! exactly! Her answers 'fit' with everything that 'went down', as far as the 911 calls go. I believe her. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - purplepegasus - 02-16-2011 (02-16-2011, 11:36 PM)Love Hippos Wrote:(02-16-2011, 11:27 PM)jash Wrote: At first, I thought her answers here were different, but they are not, as you can see from the highlighted in red. Now, do the 911 calls, taken in this context, also jive? What I mean is, if you wade thru the confusion, what did she say? MINUS what Maytee said..I don't think Im making sense here, help anyone? I believe she called him right back, but then when he didn't call back within an hour she went to LS house. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - jash - 02-16-2011 Quote:This is the point I'm obviously having trouble conveying. The stories don't jive...at least the part about when Tiffany tried to get back in touch with Johnny. She mentioned to us/Miranda she WAITED AN HOUR after she hung up with Johnny because he told her he'd call her back, yet she relayed to the 911 dispatcher that she called him back IMMEDIATELY after hearing him yelling at someone. see now..is this true verbatim from 911? Or is it confused again? She told us here they talked, hung up, she called him back immediately to tell him she would meet him at the house and thatis when she heard the guy and he said, tif, i'll call you back. Then she waited an hour...see? I think the story is actually the same, and 911 call was confusion more than a "different story"...at least, that's what I'm starting to think. Throw Maytee into the mix and all hell breaks loose. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 02-16-2011 (02-16-2011, 11:13 PM)tiffwill123 Wrote:(02-16-2011, 10:42 PM)doing40thisyear Wrote:(02-16-2011, 10:28 PM)Love Hippos Wrote:I glad someone is agreeing! Her answers to the questions were not jiving. Also why cant you answer....that they( JC AND LS) were into drugs or not, you putting everything else out there.(02-16-2011, 10:25 PM)doing40thisyear Wrote: Im sorry But ...I still dont believe anything TW says. Sorry...I think she was involved in my opinion. you don't have to explain yourself, unless you want to. Have you seen the comments from the head persons here at this forum ?? You don't HAVE to explain yourself. You've been very nice in simply answering questions. I hope you don't leave! RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - tiffwill123 - 02-16-2011 (02-16-2011, 11:33 PM)Methusala Wrote: Tiffany, I had asked you: i was there a couple nights before and no her parents were not home.and it was me jc ls and the minor friend. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 02-16-2011 (02-16-2011, 11:37 PM)jash Wrote: I think we need to completely seperate Maytee statements from Tiff statements. If you take them together, you comingle, and hence the confusion. Maytee did NOT talk to Johnny so anything she says HE said that night is second, third, or fourth hand at best, and we all know how that goes! |