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RE: Arizona Takes A Big Step Back - username - 05-08-2012
(05-08-2012, 11:37 AM)IMaDick Wrote:(05-08-2012, 11:33 AM)username Wrote: I don't know why the fuck pregnancy tests wouldn't be covered by insurance. And I'm not sure if I would be opposed to my tax dollars going to help somebody find out if they're pregnant.
There's no test to see if you need an abortion FFS. It's a pregnancy test.
Many employers are forced to pay maternity leave, why isn't that covered by insurance?
I always thought women would know if they were pregnant or at least suspect they might be in about a month?
Has something changed that I should know about?
Some idiots don't notice a missed period or two and sometimes you can still have some bleeding while pregnant.
RE: Arizona Takes A Big Step Back - Ma Huang Sor - 05-08-2012
(05-08-2012, 11:37 AM)IMaDick Wrote:(05-08-2012, 11:33 AM)username Wrote: I don't know why the fuck pregnancy tests wouldn't be covered by insurance. And I'm not sure if I would be opposed to my tax dollars going to help somebody find out if they're pregnant.
There's no test to see if you need an abortion FFS. It's a pregnancy test.
Many employers are forced to pay maternity leave, why isn't that covered by insurance?
I always thought women would know if they were pregnant or at least suspect they might be in about a month?
Has something changed that I should know about?
Since the Family Leave thingie became law, your first statement has no merit.
All men should be forced to wear this, with their partners contolling the key.
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RE: Arizona Takes A Big Step Back - IMaDick - 05-08-2012
(05-08-2012, 11:47 AM)username Wrote:(05-08-2012, 11:37 AM)IMaDick Wrote:(05-08-2012, 11:33 AM)username Wrote: I don't know why the fuck pregnancy tests wouldn't be covered by insurance. And I'm not sure if I would be opposed to my tax dollars going to help somebody find out if they're pregnant.
There's no test to see if you need an abortion FFS. It's a pregnancy test.
Many employers are forced to pay maternity leave, why isn't that covered by insurance?
I always thought women would know if they were pregnant or at least suspect they might be in about a month?
Has something changed that I should know about?
Some idiots don't notice a missed period or two and sometimes you can still have some bleeding while pregnant.
Tell that to my Grandmother.
The only reason for a pregnancy test is to decide if you want to get an abortion or not or if you need to go fill out child support papers.
otherwise if you're pregnant eventually there will be no question about it,Right?
RE: Arizona Takes A Big Step Back - IMaDick - 05-08-2012
(05-08-2012, 11:48 AM)Ma Huang Sor Wrote:(05-08-2012, 11:37 AM)IMaDick Wrote:(05-08-2012, 11:33 AM)username Wrote: I don't know why the fuck pregnancy tests wouldn't be covered by insurance. And I'm not sure if I would be opposed to my tax dollars going to help somebody find out if they're pregnant.
There's no test to see if you need an abortion FFS. It's a pregnancy test.
Many employers are forced to pay maternity leave, why isn't that covered by insurance?
I always thought women would know if they were pregnant or at least suspect they might be in about a month?
Has something changed that I should know about?
Since the Family Leave thingie became law, your first statement has no merit.
All men should be forced to wear this, with their partners contolling the key.
Everything I say has merit.
stop being a pussy.
RE: Arizona Takes A Big Step Back - Ma Huang Sor - 05-08-2012
Quit repeating yourself, fucking broken record.
RE: Arizona Takes A Big Step Back - username - 05-08-2012
Dick, women should find out if they're pregnant so they can get proper prenatal care, dingbot. We used to use leeches in medicine too. Tell that to your grandma.
RE: Arizona Takes A Big Step Back - Duchess - 05-08-2012
Sometimes I want to take his righteous, holier than thou bitch statements and shove them up his tight ass. Fact.
RE: Arizona Takes A Big Step Back - Lady Cop - 05-08-2012
(05-08-2012, 12:14 PM)username Wrote: Dick, women should find out if they're pregnant so they can get proper prenatal care.
exactly!
neanderthal.
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RE: Arizona Takes A Big Step Back - IMaDick - 05-08-2012
(05-08-2012, 12:14 PM)username Wrote: Dick, women should find out if they're pregnant so they can get proper prenatal care, dingbot. We used to use leeches in medicine too. Tell that to your grandma.
Prenatal? so sometime after conception and before birth a woman should be checked and get some care if they need it.
I have no problem with that, and factually actually what I said did not even touch on that issue.
I said a woman at some point between screwing and her next 2 periods should know if they are pregnant, and if you take a look back missy, you will see that the posts were about pregnancy tests and if a woman could tell if she was pregnant.
RE: Arizona Takes A Big Step Back - HairOfTheDog - 05-08-2012
Re-read the thread taking everyone's points into account.
I understood Tammy to indicate that she thought she was pregnant (either false positive or assumption) and went to take a test to see if she was a viable candidate for the abortion pill. If not, a surgical abortion would be needed. A little unclear; but there was no mention of a pregnancy test. Her case brings up relevant issues.
Still feel that cutting PP state tax funding for birth control, testing, planning and education just to make an anti-abortion statement with PP as the target is ridiculous and short-sighted. Pure political bullshit.
As for whether tax dollars should pay for abortion-related services even in cases not related to medical emergency, rape and incest; it's less palatable to me. But, I'd still rather have my tax dollars spent up-front on abortion rather than subsidizing unwanted children (or those whose parents don't have the means to support them) for years and years. Right now, that's not an option that's even on the table; abortions cannot be funded by tax dollars by law.
CN indicated that all such services are covered under England's universal health care service. If the US ever moves to a universal system, abortion-related services will no doubt continue to be a sticking point, but I certainly hope that equal access to birth control and education for everyone will be a no-brainer, regardless of the supplier.
Governor Brewer is still a short-sighted political dipshit for denying women of Arizona access to birth control and education services through PP just to further a political agenda.
RE: Arizona Takes A Big Step Back - IMaDick - 05-08-2012
(05-08-2012, 12:08 PM)Ma Huang Sor Wrote: Quit repeating yourself, fucking broken record.
Shut up shitbird. Can't you see the adults are talking?
RE: Arizona Takes A Big Step Back - IMaDick - 05-08-2012
I contend that Roe v Wade was never intended to become a birth control method, the law was enacted to ensure that if and when an abortion was Medically needed no state law or spouse could impede or prevent a woman from seeking and receiving that Medical treatment.
The My body my decision is a perversion of that law.
I have no problem with medically necessary abortion or for incest or rape, no woman should have to bear the fruit of a crime in her body or in her life.
RE: Arizona Takes A Big Step Back - Duchess - 05-08-2012
(05-08-2012, 12:55 PM)IMaDick Wrote: I have no problem with medically necessary abortion or for incest or rape, no woman should have to bear the fruit of a crime in her body or in her life.
So what about the responsible woman who knows she can't afford children or simply doesn't want any & her birth control fails her and she's pregnant & wants to terminate it. What is your stance on that?
RE: Arizona Takes A Big Step Back - IMaDick - 05-08-2012
(05-08-2012, 12:58 PM)Duchess Wrote:(05-08-2012, 12:55 PM)IMaDick Wrote: I have no problem with medically necessary abortion or for incest or rape, no woman should have to bear the fruit of a crime in her body or in her life.
So what about the responsible woman who knows she can't afford children or simply doesn't want any & her birth control fails her and she's pregnant & wants to terminate it. What is your stance on that?
That's birth control and since we already have mechanisms in place to assist her to raise her child abortion should be off the table, there is also adoption, there are people who can't have children that will adopt babies that will not adopt older children with baggage.
Those are viable options for healthy women who accidentally get pregnant, for drug addicts and alcoholics genetically fucked up women the fetus should be tested for abnormalities and abortion in case of deformity or handicap should be considered as a sound medically advisable procedure.
RE: Arizona Takes A Big Step Back - Ma Huang Sor - 05-08-2012
(05-08-2012, 12:49 PM)IMaDick Wrote:(05-08-2012, 12:08 PM)Ma Huang Sor Wrote: Quit repeating yourself, fucking broken record.
Shut up shitbird. Can't you see the adults are talking?
Fall on something sharp pillowbiter, like your pointy head.
RE: Arizona Takes A Big Step Back - Ma Huang Sor - 05-08-2012
(05-08-2012, 12:58 PM)Duchess Wrote:(05-08-2012, 12:55 PM)IMaDick Wrote: I have no problem with medically necessary abortion or for incest or rape, no woman should have to bear the fruit of a crime in her body or in her life.
So what about the responsible woman who knows she can't afford children or simply doesn't want any & her birth control fails her and she's pregnant & wants to terminate it. What is your stance on that?
His stance is "get out your wallet, whore"
RE: Arizona Takes A Big Step Back - Duchess - 05-08-2012
(05-08-2012, 01:06 PM)IMaDick Wrote: Those are viable options for healthy women who accidentally get pregnant
Why should a woman have to endure a pregnancy that she has taken responsible steps to avoid? I want to know why.
Not everyone wants children & I have no problem with them terminating a pregnancy that they took steps to avoid in the first place.
RE: Arizona Takes A Big Step Back - IMaDick - 05-08-2012
(05-08-2012, 01:24 PM)Ma Huang Sor Wrote:(05-08-2012, 12:58 PM)Duchess Wrote:(05-08-2012, 12:55 PM)IMaDick Wrote: I have no problem with medically necessary abortion or for incest or rape, no woman should have to bear the fruit of a crime in her body or in her life.
So what about the responsible woman who knows she can't afford children or simply doesn't want any & her birth control fails her and she's pregnant & wants to terminate it. What is your stance on that?
His stance is "get out your wallet, whore"
Are you pissed that I don't want to pay for you to have an abortion?
RE: Arizona Takes A Big Step Back - IMaDick - 05-08-2012
(05-08-2012, 01:35 PM)Duchess Wrote:(05-08-2012, 01:06 PM)IMaDick Wrote: Those are viable options for healthy women who accidentally get pregnant
Why should a woman have to endure a pregnancy that she has taken responsible steps to avoid? I want to know why.
Not everyone wants children & I have no problem with them terminating a pregnancy that they took steps to avoid in the first place.
Is the failure of the birth control device on film?
RE: Arizona Takes A Big Step Back - Duchess - 05-08-2012
(05-08-2012, 01:46 PM)IMaDick Wrote: Is the failure of the birth control device on film?
Jesus Christ.
Why do you want me to think you're a goddamn moron?