12-05-2014, 01:32 AM
Well, Mags, my wormy friend. Toss out the bait and I'll go ahead and bite if I just happening to be swimming around.......
I don't believe people were out to get Italian American cops when they hoped for NYPD Officer Daniel Pantaleo to be indicted for the chokehold compression homicide of unarmed, non violent African American Eric Garner.
I don't believe that people were out to get Hispanic cops when they hoped for the manslaughter conviction of Fullerton PD Officer Manual Ramos for the compression and beating homicide of unarmed, non violent Caucasian Kelly Thomas.
I don't believe that people were out to get white cops when they hoped for an indictment of Sonoma PD Officer Erick Gelhaus in the shooting death of 13-year-old Hispanic Andy Lopez, who was shot 7 times carrying a bebe gun.
And, I don't believe people are out to get white cops when they hope that Cleveland PD Officer Timothy Loehmann (and possibly his partner Frank Gambarck) are indicted in the shooting death of 12-year-old African American Tamir Rice, who was shot in the park carrying a pellet gun.
I don't believe that white cops should be immune from being questioned or held accountable for the killing of unarmed or toy-carrying adults and children. For me, whether a killing is justified or not depends on the circumstances of each case -- the races of the cops and the races of the people they killed are typically irrelevant in making that determination, and no one (including cops of any color) is above the law or exempt from accountability.
By far, most police killings that I read or hear about are IMO justified based on the known circumstances. However, some are highly questionable and deserve close scrutiny/investigation if there is reason to suspect that the killings were due to police brutality, incompetence, use of unwarranted deadly force, etc...
It seems to me from your comments of late, Mags, that you see it only in black (or non-white) and white; that you truly believe that when white cops are questioned they're being persecuted or sacrificed. I can filter out the irrelevant race stirrings and don't see it the same, unless there is indeed evidence suggesting that a killing was racially motivated. In this case, I don't believe that Timothy Loehmann will be a woeful sacrificial white lamb if he is charged in the shooting death of Tamir Rice. I believe his own actions (and possibly deceptions) will have put him there and that he has a right to defend himself and his actions, which he will get if he's indicted.
I don't believe people were out to get Italian American cops when they hoped for NYPD Officer Daniel Pantaleo to be indicted for the chokehold compression homicide of unarmed, non violent African American Eric Garner.
I don't believe that people were out to get Hispanic cops when they hoped for the manslaughter conviction of Fullerton PD Officer Manual Ramos for the compression and beating homicide of unarmed, non violent Caucasian Kelly Thomas.
I don't believe that people were out to get white cops when they hoped for an indictment of Sonoma PD Officer Erick Gelhaus in the shooting death of 13-year-old Hispanic Andy Lopez, who was shot 7 times carrying a bebe gun.
And, I don't believe people are out to get white cops when they hope that Cleveland PD Officer Timothy Loehmann (and possibly his partner Frank Gambarck) are indicted in the shooting death of 12-year-old African American Tamir Rice, who was shot in the park carrying a pellet gun.
I don't believe that white cops should be immune from being questioned or held accountable for the killing of unarmed or toy-carrying adults and children. For me, whether a killing is justified or not depends on the circumstances of each case -- the races of the cops and the races of the people they killed are typically irrelevant in making that determination, and no one (including cops of any color) is above the law or exempt from accountability.
By far, most police killings that I read or hear about are IMO justified based on the known circumstances. However, some are highly questionable and deserve close scrutiny/investigation if there is reason to suspect that the killings were due to police brutality, incompetence, use of unwarranted deadly force, etc...
It seems to me from your comments of late, Mags, that you see it only in black (or non-white) and white; that you truly believe that when white cops are questioned they're being persecuted or sacrificed. I can filter out the irrelevant race stirrings and don't see it the same, unless there is indeed evidence suggesting that a killing was racially motivated. In this case, I don't believe that Timothy Loehmann will be a woeful sacrificial white lamb if he is charged in the shooting death of Tamir Rice. I believe his own actions (and possibly deceptions) will have put him there and that he has a right to defend himself and his actions, which he will get if he's indicted.