DEFINE LIBERAL
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Thanks cannongal.

I share your frustration with properly treating those with mental illness. There are too many mentally ill people in jail due to lack of more appropriate settings, and then released with no care plan or follow-up. Jails aren't hospitals and get a lot of repeat business that way.

And, even when someone is documented as mentally ill, they can sometimes still buy guns through legal channels because of privacy issues causing states to withhold the medical records from the Federal NICS database. Definitely a big problem.

I did understand that you called MS arrogant rather than ignorant. He's a cocky bastard alright. But, that's not what I was addressing in term of ignorance.

You implied (or I inferred?) that bringing up the issue of gun control was a sign of ignorance in regards to what you consider the real problem, namely untreated mental health problems. I disagree. Addressing the problem of easy gun-accessibility into the wrong hands, without mentioning mental illness, doesn't imply that one is ignoring that mental illness is sometimes a contributor. And vice versa.

Anyway, a full gun control or gun violence discussion needs to address both (and other factors), regardless as to whether it spurs short-term gun sales. But, that's another thread.

P.s. I hope your stepson is doing better these days; tough situation for him and the family.
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DEFINE LIBERAL - by Duchess - 06-16-2015, 10:30 AM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by SIXFOOTERsez - 06-16-2015, 11:14 AM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by Duchess - 06-16-2015, 01:05 PM
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RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by BlueTiki - 06-16-2015, 06:48 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by Blindgreed1 - 06-16-2015, 06:57 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by BlueTiki - 06-16-2015, 05:25 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by Blindgreed1 - 06-16-2015, 05:50 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by SIXFOOTERsez - 06-16-2015, 06:12 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by Blindgreed1 - 06-16-2015, 06:45 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by SIXFOOTERsez - 06-18-2015, 07:39 AM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by BlueTiki - 06-16-2015, 07:38 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by Midwest Spy - 06-16-2015, 07:45 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by BlueTiki - 06-16-2015, 07:55 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by FAHQTOO - 06-16-2015, 08:07 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by Maggot - 06-17-2015, 02:54 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by BlueTiki - 06-17-2015, 03:10 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by blueberryhill - 06-17-2015, 07:40 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by crash - 06-17-2015, 07:45 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by blueberryhill - 06-17-2015, 08:17 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by blueberryhill - 06-17-2015, 07:47 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by crash - 06-17-2015, 08:26 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by blueberryhill - 06-17-2015, 09:24 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by Maggot - 06-17-2015, 09:22 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by blueberryhill - 06-17-2015, 09:30 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by Duchess - 06-18-2015, 05:12 AM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by HairOfTheDog - 06-17-2015, 10:42 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by BlueTiki - 06-18-2015, 12:40 AM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by blueberryhill - 06-18-2015, 05:28 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by BlueTiki - 06-18-2015, 06:32 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by Carsman - 06-18-2015, 06:10 AM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by Duchess - 06-18-2015, 06:12 AM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by Jimbone - 06-18-2015, 09:13 AM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by blueberryhill - 06-18-2015, 05:20 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by Jimbone - 06-18-2015, 05:50 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by blueberryhill - 06-18-2015, 09:45 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by Jimbone - 06-18-2015, 10:17 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by HairOfTheDog - 06-18-2015, 08:55 AM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by Duchess - 06-18-2015, 09:16 AM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by Jimbone - 06-18-2015, 11:38 AM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by Maggot - 06-18-2015, 01:29 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by BlueTiki - 06-18-2015, 12:27 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by HairOfTheDog - 06-18-2015, 01:53 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by Jimbone - 06-18-2015, 03:35 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by Carsman - 06-18-2015, 03:45 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by Duchess - 06-18-2015, 03:47 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by crash - 06-18-2015, 07:46 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by BlueTiki - 06-18-2015, 05:36 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by sally - 06-18-2015, 07:38 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by cannongal - 06-19-2015, 03:12 AM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by Midwest Spy - 06-19-2015, 10:13 AM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by cannongal - 06-19-2015, 10:46 AM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by BlueTiki - 06-19-2015, 10:36 AM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by Midwest Spy - 06-19-2015, 10:54 AM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by HairOfTheDog - 06-19-2015, 11:00 AM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by cannongal - 06-19-2015, 02:14 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by crash - 06-19-2015, 11:01 AM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by BlueTiki - 06-19-2015, 11:17 AM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by HairOfTheDog - 06-19-2015, 11:27 AM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by HairOfTheDog - 06-19-2015, 11:22 AM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by Jimbone - 06-19-2015, 11:36 AM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by HairOfTheDog - 06-19-2015, 12:28 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by Jimbone - 06-19-2015, 11:32 AM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by BlueTiki - 06-19-2015, 11:41 AM
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RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by BlueTiki - 06-19-2015, 01:39 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by Adub - 06-19-2015, 01:56 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by Jimbone - 06-19-2015, 01:42 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by BlueTiki - 06-19-2015, 03:59 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by Duchess - 06-19-2015, 04:06 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by HairOfTheDog - 06-19-2015, 04:21 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by blueberryhill - 06-19-2015, 06:24 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by cannongal - 06-19-2015, 11:10 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by Jimbone - 06-20-2015, 12:57 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by blueberryhill - 06-20-2015, 09:28 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by Jimbone - 06-21-2015, 11:41 AM
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RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by blueberryhill - 06-20-2015, 02:04 AM
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RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by Cutz - 06-20-2015, 04:13 AM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by Duchess - 06-20-2015, 05:10 AM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by FAHQTOO - 06-20-2015, 09:43 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by Duchess - 06-20-2015, 12:36 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by Carsman - 06-20-2015, 01:02 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by blueberryhill - 06-20-2015, 09:32 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by HairOfTheDog - 06-20-2015, 09:37 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by blueberryhill - 06-20-2015, 10:00 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by HairOfTheDog - 06-20-2015, 10:03 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by Maggot - 06-21-2015, 01:39 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by Carsman - 06-21-2015, 01:57 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by aussiefriend - 06-21-2015, 02:02 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by BlueTiki - 06-24-2015, 12:52 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by aussiefriend - 06-24-2015, 10:38 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by crash - 06-24-2015, 11:01 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by BlueTiki - 06-25-2015, 12:30 AM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by aussiefriend - 06-25-2015, 05:01 AM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by Duchess - 06-21-2015, 02:08 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by Carsman - 06-21-2015, 02:35 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by aussiefriend - 06-21-2015, 08:13 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by Maggot - 06-22-2015, 12:17 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by Duchess - 06-22-2015, 07:33 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by crash - 06-22-2015, 07:41 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by Maggot - 06-22-2015, 09:25 PM
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RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by Maggot - 06-24-2015, 04:10 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by Carsman - 06-25-2015, 04:29 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by aussiefriend - 06-24-2015, 11:03 PM
RE: DEFINE LIBERAL - by BlueTiki - 06-25-2015, 10:39 AM