ANOTHER SCHOOL/PUBLIC SHOOTING

[HairOfTheDog]

The dealer has nothing to do with you getting permission from NICS to complete a transaction BTW. They take the information from the form you fill out, and provide it during the NICS check. The agent on the other end says yes or no, and that's where the transaction proceeds or stops.

Yes, in this case, the gun dealer appears to have followed all requirements -- it's not his or her fault for legally selling a gun to an illegal buyer.

And the NICS database is only as good as the info provided to it. If the Air Force fucked up, it's on them. Just like the PD that didn't enter Dylan Roof's drug arrest, which would have flagged him from purchasing when he did.

It wasn't the PD who fucked up and put the legally-sold gun into the illegal purchaser's hands so he could go shoot-to-death 9 innocent people at the Baptist church in Carolina. It was the Feds again. Because of the federal law that gives the FBI only three days to vet an applicant, Dylann Roof was able to buy the firearm. The FBI didn't vet him in time, so the dealer was able to legally sell him the gun when Roof went back to the dealer on day 4 (even though he didn't pass the background check).

The waiting period needs to be extended beyond three days on a national level, in my opinion. 30 days sounds reasonable to me.

The only perfect system will be the no-more-gun-confiscate-existing system, and that's not likely to happen

There is no perfect system and I don't think anyone here is suggesting there is.

But, we can do a whole better and there are definitely measures which can be taken to make it happen. There is a way, there just isn't a will by some legislators who are beholden to the NRA, the gun lobby, and some loud constituents who immediately scream "they're gonna take all our guns away" whenever reasonable control improvements are broached.

I think sally's right about too many of the people who have the power to make a positive difference not giving a shit about the consequences of their self-serving bullshit. And, I think Cars is right too -- the majority of the public is beyond justified in being pissed off about lack of action from a whole party of elected officials. It can make a difference if concerned citizens continue to push loudly and constantly for action. We also need to show up and vote in Congressional elections.