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INDIANA -- TEEN GIRLS KILLED WHILE HIKING; Liberty German and Abigail Williams
They just busted some creep who kidnapped a 9 year old girl, they think he may be a suspect.
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How fucked up does someone have to be to go after children! My God. 

I always hesitate to come into this forum.
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I saw the scroll across the TV earlier today, but I haven’t had an opportunity to find out what happened. Thanks for posting that!
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Your word is my command.
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(10-29-2022, 08:42 PM)BigMark Wrote: Your word is my command.

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Richard Allen worked at local pharmacy in Delphi

Family of victims said he offered to print pictures of girls for funeral for free ( sickening)

Apparently he put himself on the bridge at time of murder - told authorities soon after that he was there but didn’t see girls

The probable cause warrant is sealed - U Indiana law professor weighed in that may indicate more arrests coming &/or additional charges
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Who else has he murdered?
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(11-18-2022, 12:59 PM)rothschild Wrote: Who else has he murdered?

Good question Roth

He’s married and I can’t understand how wife didn’t at least suspect him

There’s a pic of him in local bar they frequent sitting in front of sketch of suspect hanging on wall of bar #hidinginplainsight
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It is cases like these that keep me from this part of the forum. I just went to see pics of his sketch and read a story about the bar owners who said he and his wife frequented that bar, along w/ family members of the 2 little girls. : (

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Ewww. That is so fucked up.
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Tomorrow is the first public hearing for Richard Allen. Wondering if any new info will come out or if just preliminary proceedings…
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Hearing today was first time Abby and Libby’s families have seen Richard Allen since the arrest.
Reporter from HLN said he made eye contact with them for several seconds.
Biggest takeaways:
-they believe he was not the only actor in the murders
- the defense is asking to unseal the probable cause warrant - Prosecutor offered Judge to release if re-sacred primarily to not compromise investigation of other suspects and also to protect anonymity of minor witnesses. The judge will make a ruling at a later date on if should be unsealed or not, and if so, how much redaction will happen.
-next hearing is 2/17/23 for bond ( a few days after the 6th anniversary of their death)

Reporter said she sat with victims families and they said they are waiting to hear evidence against RA
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A man named Kegan Kline was previously arrested - owner of online name Anthony-shots - through which he tried to entice young girls ( including at least one of these victims). His name has been brought up several times when talking about Allen.
However not arrested for murder of these girls so may not have been directly involved in that but wondering if there’s some indirect link to RA or other possible suspect
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I'm watching Dateline-it is about 2 girls that were murdered in Washington State in 1986. Fucking brutal.

Murderous assholes.

I remember that place-it was so beautiful, and then it turned ugly and we couldnt' go there anymore. Sorry, not trying to hijak thread. Just mentioning it. I wasn't trying to watch Dateline either!!!!

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/mic...ld-n991556

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(11-24-2022, 12:18 AM)MirahM Wrote: I'm watching Dateline-it is about 2 girls that were murdered in Washington State in 1986. Fucking brutal.

Murderous assholes.

I remember that place-it was so beautiful, and then it turned ugly and we couldnt' go there anymore. Sorry, not trying to hijak thread. Just mentioning it. I wasn't trying to watch Dateline either!!!!

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/mic...ld-n991556
I don’t know this story - was it solved?
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RA’s attorney is insisting the evidence is flimsy. Asking at next bond hearing that he’s released on own Recognizance.

I hope he’s just trying to provide a good defense and that he’s not right.

It’s pretty unusual to keep everything so secretive post-arrest - including probable cause.
The prosecutor has also filed for gag order for attorneys and RA.
I wonder if he happens to get convicted if it could be overturned due to the handling/restriction of his rights.

It’s important to get this right.
And as Libby’s grandmother said - where are the rights for these two girls who were brutally murdered…
So much respect for the family - trying to hold it together and wait for evidence before vilifying him.
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Richard Allen’s Defense team filed for a change of venue citing media attention and Google search trends which indicate half of Carroll County has searched about RA online following the arrest- they’re asking for it to be moved 150 miles away where internet searches dramatically drop
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Redacted Probable Cause Arrest Warrant released.
Main points of cause:
- put himself at scene
- other juvenile witnesses described him and clothing
- video of man on bridge matches RA
- reports of car parked at building nearby is similar to RA’s
-camera from nearby store shows RA’s car exiting/entering at times when crime occurred
- .40 caliber unspent bullet was found between the two girls
- search of RA’s house resulted in collecting clothing, etc, and .40 caliber SigSauer gun
- RA said he didn’t loan Gun to anyone
- some ballistic testing indicates that the found bullet had been in RA’s Sig Sauer.
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