Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[pplrcrazy]

The more Maytee types the more trouble she is going to get herself into and shes announcing her threats very bodly and honestly its starting to piss me off. Shes taking it too damn far now...

[Older Than Dirt]

I KNOW how you can tell how when a drug user is lying. When their lips are moving! Also, a person would not have to tell LE ,oh Btw I'm the person that did this and that. They know who they are asking questions. Also, I would think that if Maytee really knows anything, which a lot of people think she does, why zero in on somebody that nothing to do with this crime! Just some of my thoughts. Oh, and users can be very loving, caring and helpful. They can also be well thought of by people who don't REALLY know them. Just don't ask them any questions.It is a waste of time. End of rant.

[Nina]

I didn't see AP say anywhere that he "smacked girls around". In fact, he said the opposite.

I can't see why anyone would think he's going to tell the cops about previous activity or his carrying. I'm sure he thinks that has nothing to do with the murder case, and he's right. Why should he go ratting himself out for other things? Anyone who lives that life would have to be a compete retard to announce to the police that they carry a gun. If someone chooses to live the life that he does, I would imagine that avoiding jail is desirable and they don't go out of their way to draw more attention to themselves. Just being logical, here.

My sense is that he had nothing to do with the murders. I can't say the same for Tiffany but don't know.

Direct quote from AG "ive hit girls be4 but thety were my girlfriends"


"my criminal history is not violent at all"

vs.

"i made all the guys in the house empty their pockets but none of them had money but one person so i took that "

" .i shot the gun into tiffany's friends hood of her car"

And TW admitted to knowing who robbed a guy and made him "beg for his life". I think you'd have to be a "complete retard" to admit those things to strangers but they did.

AGAIN, I am not "convicting" AG in my mind. I truly am not convinced he is involved but I can't help thinking the he and TW might know who is responsible. I just think it is a huge coincidence that Johnny feared AG was going to rob him, AG and his buddies were all over FB talking about revenge, etc literally right before the murders, and AG's girlfriend just happens to be the one to sound the first alarm.

[pplrcrazy]

I dont even think Maytee knows what Karma is, Karma is a natrual thing, not something planned out by the accusers IMO... Shes trying to set things up so that something bad happens to these people and the reason i get so mad about this shit is, 1. shes a grown adult who has a record just like these kids and yet beats down on them, and 2. theres no real proof they did this because if there was they would be in JAIL!

[Nina]

I dont even think Maytee knows what Karma is, Karma is a natrual thing, not something planned out by the accusers IMO... Shes trying to set things up so that something bad happens to these people and the reason i get so mad about this shit is, 1. shes a grown adult who has a record just like these kids and yet beats down on them, and 2. theres no real proof they did this because if there was they would be in JAIL!

I agree that Maytee is going way overboard and needs to stop. For whatever reason, she is convinced that AG and TW are involved so I don't blame her for her hatred but posting it all over FB is ridiculous. I seriously think she may be mentally ill. She is probably on some serious drugs - she repeats herself constantly and doesn't make any sense.

[Older Than Dirt]

I'm glad that Maytee appartently has some protection with her. I've been a little worried about her safety. How, would you like to go there and have somebody come to the door with bright red eyes?

[pplrcrazy]

I dont even think Maytee knows what Karma is, Karma is a natrual thing, not something planned out by the accusers IMO... Shes trying to set things up so that something bad happens to these people and the reason i get so mad about this shit is, 1. shes a grown adult who has a record just like these kids and yet beats down on them, and 2. theres no real proof they did this because if there was they would be in JAIL!

I agree that Maytee is going way overboard and needs to stop. For whatever reason, she is convinced that AG and TW are involved so I don't blame her for her hatred but posting it all over FB is ridiculous. I seriously think she may be mentally ill. She is probably on some serious drugs - she repeats herself constantly and doesn't make any sense.

I agree, she has mental issues and Im pretty certain that shes probably always been that way, the behavior just seems to comfortable for her IMO and shes gonna get someone hurt or killed with all these posts.. I think shes on something half of the time too because like you said she is constantl repeating herself and no she doesnt make any sense half the time either.. I understand she is hurting but shes not doing anyone any good posting that kind of stuff and her poor kids, I can only imagine what they hear at home about all of this...

[Sonny223]

If something does happen to any of the alphabet crew, all fingers are going to point to JC mother. I just think she is baiting them to do or say something incriminating. Now, putting all this on a facebook page that is supposed to be for people to show respect for the deceased. JC 's mother is drawing to much attention to things she can't control. I bet LS's parents are very ashamed about all this drama that the Facebook page is causing for them. I'm surprised that someone hasn't shut down this Facebook page for a few reasons, respect for the dead, LS's parents, ongoing double murder case, lack of professionalism and integrity.

[WolfHouse]

If Maytee truly believes in Karma, she must be kicking herself
in her ass wondering which thing she did to bring this Karma
upon her, her husband and those two boys, let alone all the
people on the fringe. She needs to shut up and start a private
journal for her thoughts.

Disclaimer: Her definition of Karma and what mine would be
if I had one are not the same.

[Nina]

If Johnny feared him then I doubt he would do anything to incur that young man's wrath. If he was frightened that would imply he stayed away from him & he sure as hell wasn't going to provoke him to the point of murder. He provoked someone else instead, maybe he had his mothers mouth. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree & all that stuff.

True. True. But then it doesn't make sense that Johnny was going to go pick up AG's girlfriend to come over and party then either. He knew that her partying incurred AG's wrath at the NYE party.

I just think their stories don't add up. But I am more suspicious of TW than AG.

[shitstorm]

Direct quote from AG "ive hit girls be4 but thety were my girlfriends"

Okay, I didn't see that (I don't usually read the FB stuff). I just saw where someone posted on here his saying he never touches women. So much for that.

I didn't have any doubts about his being violent. Re: the murders, I said if AP had done it I thought he would have shot them. I still lean that way.

And, yeah, all of the FB ramblings are retarded. It's the element of humanity we're looking at in this thread - bottom of the barrel. That said, I don't think most would commit a crime and then run and tell the cops about it.

[Older Than Dirt]

I have reason to think that the Straubs are not bothered by FB or any other site pertaining to what happened to their daughter. I also think, that if they have friends that are on FB, MOCK, etc. that they would not tell them what's going on! They have there own grief to deal with.

[aileen]

Secondly Maytee and John Sr. took the warning totally and
urgently seriously. That in itself speaks volumes.

Which is why IMO, I believe JC and LS were murdered by people who had some kind of personal vendetta against Maytee and her husband. I also think the person/s who murdered JC and LS, were most likely around the same age as the parents, and true blue criminals.

[shitstorm]

I dont even think Maytee knows what Karma is, Karma is a natrual thing, not something planned out by the accusers IMO... Shes trying to set things up so that something bad happens to these people and the reason i get so mad about this shit is, 1. shes a grown adult who has a record just like these kids and yet beats down on them, and 2. theres no real proof they did this because if there was they would be in JAIL!

She's a fucking witch (which is, of course, nonsense). She is trying to WILL the killers be consumed by demons. She's nuts. She probably practices some form of African hoodoo, like lots of the other Caribbean weirdos.

She's probably wrong about who she thinks did it and is wasting her 'psychic' energy, anyway. I also wouldn't be too quick to assume if they did do it that they'd be in jail, either. There's no evidence of ANYTHING, including that the local sheriff's dept is any kind of brain trust. All I've seen about them is that they covered up a murder that took place in their own damn jail.

A few hundred pages back I wondered about J&L's trip to Florida. I still wonder what that was about. Where did they get the money; where did they stay; who did they see down there - drug dealers?

[shitstorm]

I dont even think Maytee knows what Karma is, Karma is a natrual thing, not something planned out by the accusers IMO... Shes trying to set things up so that something bad happens to these people and the reason i get so mad about this shit is, 1. shes a grown adult who has a record just like these kids and yet beats down on them, and 2. theres no real proof they did this because if there was they would be in JAIL!

I agree that Maytee is going way overboard and needs to stop. For whatever reason, she is convinced that AG and TW are involved so I don't blame her for her hatred but posting it all over FB is ridiculous. I seriously think she may be mentally ill. She is probably on some serious drugs - she repeats herself constantly and doesn't make any sense.

I agree, she has mental issues and Im pretty certain that shes probably always been that way, the behavior just seems to comfortable for her IMO and shes gonna get someone hurt or killed with all these posts.. I think shes on something half of the time too because like you said she is constantl repeating herself and no she doesnt make any sense half the time either.. I understand she is hurting but shes not doing anyone any good posting that kind of stuff and her poor kids, I can only imagine what they hear at home about all of this...

With that demon stuff, a lot of those Caribbeans have mental issues. They kill animals to cast spells, ffs. It doesn't get any more insane than that.

[Duchess]

But then it doesn't make sense that Johnny was going to go pick up AG's girlfriend to come over and party then either. He knew that her partying incurred AG's wrath at the NYE party.

No, it doesn't make sense, does it. Isn't it odd that Johnny would have anything at all to do with the girlfriend of someone he fears? Isn't it odd also that TW would be hanging out with someone who is running around saying he fears her boyfriend is going to rob him. None of us would disrespect our personal relationships like that.

I see why everyone is so suspicious of her. None of that makes any sense.

[shitstorm]

But then it doesn't make sense that Johnny was going to go pick up AG's girlfriend to come over and party then either. He knew that her partying incurred AG's wrath at the NYE party.

No, it doesn't make sense, does it. Isn't it odd that Johnny would have anything at all to do with the girlfriend of someone he fears? Isn't it odd also that TW would be hanging out with someone who is running around saying he fears her boyfriend is going to rob him. None of us would disrespect our personal relationships like that.

I see why everyone is so suspicious of her. None of that makes any sense.

It is weird but then we have Lisa posting to Tiffany's FB page about needing T's "diggies".

[Adub]

I remember reading on TWs fb, when it was public, all of her AG problems. And they don't live together. We really have no idea how much time they spend together. Now, or then. I still think that it is possible that JC and LS were hanging out with ZB. And TW was just there, more or less. Didn't all the phonecalls that night go down on ZBs cell?

[Nina]

Justice Will Prevail for Johnny and Lisa
Hey TW evil demon can you really sleep at night or your sick spineless prince of darkness n crew hmmmm i doubt it and you know god law makes sure your all going to die the worst of slowest painfull deaths your days on earth are very short evil sick excuses for human life sewer trash.... Cnt wait to spit on your patgetic graves!!!! Justice KARMA



I find it interesting how shes says GOD LAW but not just law, sounds like shes going off of faith more then anything...

She's a self described witch and she believes in life beyond the 3D world. Seems she also believes in a punishing God. I think she's off base on that but I agree about the karma. She's not creating good karma for herself, though. The pain and the hate are consuming her and it just shows how crimes like murder kill more than the immediate victims.

"My boys, you know, they must have their taste of blood."

She held her head up. "I am not afraid," she said "The Lord is my shepherd."

The killer sighed.

"Then he is a vain and careless shepard," he said.

- Little Bee by Chris Cleave

Sorry, off topic. Not my thoughts but saw this in a book I was reading last night and this comment made me think of it.

[Older Than Dirt]

Justice Will Prevail for Johnny and Lisa
I cnt wait to see all you evil demons dead TW and your lil hoe crew your death is going to hurt a million times worst for what you did to my johnny n lisa.... Your nasty skank low life excuse for human lifes all you are goin to die God law streets makes sure of that i promise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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