ABORTION

[BlueTiki]

I like it that Papa Frankie left it up to the priests' discretion . . . to absolve or not.

I'm gonna guess if a Jewish doctor performed the procedure, the woman will be denied.

Or if she was carrying Mel Gibson's seed.

[Jimbone]

Pappy has it right... the 'discretion' part is going to be cross referenced to the weekly collection ledger, to the Bishops Appeal participation level, to the Our Lady of the Worthless Miracle Capital Campaign contributions... etc etc.

Contrition in the church is measured in cash.

[Blindgreed1]

[HairOfTheDog]

This makes me smile.

Some Republican lawmakers and politicians keep swearing they are gonna put Planned Parenthood out of business for "selling baby parts" and killing babies for profit...based on the content of the bullshit sting videos circulated last year.

In every local investigation since launched, Planned Parenthood has been cleared of any legal wrongdoing.

But, that didn't stop the state of Texas from taking a case to a grand jury. Well, today that grand jury declined to indict PP and instead indicted two of the sting video makers. Haha.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/grand-jury-i...od-videos/

[Blindgreed1]

This makes me smile.

Some Republican lawmakers and politicians keep swearing they are gonna put Planned Parenthood out of business for "selling baby parts" and killing babies for profit...based on the content of the bullshit sting videos circulated last year.

In every local investigation since launched, Planned Parenthood has been cleared of any legal wrongdoing.

But, that didn't stop the state of Texas from taking a case to a grand jury. Well, today that grand jury declined to indict PP and instead indicted two of the sting video makers. Haha.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/grand-jury-i...od-videos/

It's about time.

[Duchess]

This makes me smile.

It amused the hell out of me too! I clapped like a seal. Aha!

[HairOfTheDog]

Well, this is one case that was definitively decided, despite an only 8-person Supreme Court. I agree with the majority ruling against shutting down clinics.

Whole Woman’s Health v. Hellerstedt, was decided in a 5-3 vote, with Justice Anthony Kennedy siding with the court’s more liberal justices. The Texas law being challenged in the case would have closed most of the abortion clinics in the state. By ruling the Texas law unconstitutional, the fives justices delivered a victory to the abortion rights movement.

The 5-3 ruling is the most significant decision from the Supreme Court on abortion in two decades and could serve to deter other states from passing so-called "clinic shutdown" laws.

Justice Stephen Breyer wrote the majority opinion, which was joined in full by Kennedy. Breyer wrote that despite arguments that the restrictions were designed to protect women's health, the reality is that they merely amounted to burdening women who seek abortions.

More: http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/27/politics/s...index.html

[SIXFOOTERsez]

Cool
Texas is home for me, but there has become in the last 15 years or so way too many social conservative tard lawyers running the show

[Maggot]

They should team up with PBS and have fund raisers and stuff, maybe even use Obama care to fund themselves instead of relying on State and government funding unless of coarse they are an arm of government and have a legitimate reason to be included in the budget. Taxpayer funding is the issue in the end. Who funds their pensions?

[Duchess]

The 5-3 ruling is the most significant decision from the Supreme Court on abortion in two decades and could serve to deter other states from passing so-called "clinic shutdown" laws.

I read that ruling created a domino effect across the country.

[HairOfTheDog]

They should team up with PBS and have fund raisers and stuff, maybe even use Obama care to fund themselves instead of relying on State and government funding unless of coarse they are an arm of government and have a legitimate reason to be included in the budget. Taxpayer funding is the issue in the end. Who funds their pensions?

Abortion is legal in this country.

The state of Texas was simply trying to disregard the law by imposing unnecessary and impossible new standards on free-standing abortion clinics across the state as a back-door to get around a woman's legal right to choose.

There was no issue or evidence of 'woman's health risk'; as the state of Texas (and some others) have claimed when introducing back-door legislation to make it incredibly difficult for women to get abortions (the vast majority of which are undertaken in the first trimester).

If the state of Texas had prevailed in the Hellerstedt case, it would have meant women would typically have to wait 3 weeks and travel over 150 miles to abort a pregnancy. I don't know if that would have further reduced the number of abortions being performed, but I'm almost certain it would have increased the number of later trimester abortions. If you support early term abortions but oppose later ones, as you've stated upthread, the Supreme Court ruling coincides with your view rather than contradicts it, in my opinion.

The Hellerstedt vs. Texas case was not a question of taxpayer funding, women's health, or anything of the sort. It was an objection to the transparent attempt by some state legislators to defy the federal law due to their moral and/or religious beliefs.

[F.U.]

On the Trump thread I asked if killing a pregnant mother was a double homicide and if so at what state of pregnancy does that take effect. Well I just looked it up and this is what I read.

 defines "person," for the purpose of criminal homicide or assaults, to include an unborn child in utero at any stage of development,

So . . . If they are calling a unborn fetus at ANY stage of its development a person in this case, why is a unborn child at any state of its development not considered a person in EVERY instance?

[Duchess]

Beats me. I've never cared enough to look into it.

[F.U.]

I do care. Its a double standard.

[F.U.]

What is worse, Gun violence in kids , or abortion?

One child or teen dies from a gun every 3 hours and 28 minutes. - See more at: http://www.childrensdefense.org/campaign...xiga0.dpuf

Abortion kills one child every 97 seconds.


Just something to think about.

[Duchess]

What is worse, Gun violence in kids , or abortion?

Gun violence

[F.U.]

Why do you feel that way?

How is that 1 child killed by a gun more important that the 128.6 children killed by a knife?

[Duchess]

Probably because I don't view abortion the same way you do.

[F.U.]

delete

[Duchess]

No